Submitted by ADefiniteDescription t3_yfods1 in philosophy
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coyote-1 t1_iu4ge48 wrote
Love the Gil Scott Heron inclusion. It’s made no less relevant by the fact that 15 African-Americans have gone into space; more than 350 whites have gone to space.
This discussion has been ongoing ever since space travel became reality. The costs are enormous, and for all the talk about “humans will have to leave earth one day to survive” there is not even a glimmer of ability to terraform another world. And there is not a world that can be terraformed anywhere within reach. Furthermore, the odds on natural causes chasing us off this planet pale compared to the odds of us destroying our ability to reside here.
If we cannot manage a perfectly good livable planet, are we even worthy of attempting to try to live on another planet? My reply is NO.
WildIsland-S-E t1_iu7ion1 wrote
Teraform earth.
Lens2Learn t1_iu4gy4e wrote
To me, the movie "Elisium" with Matt Damon is a likely outcome... in the short term.
Minute-Hyena-407 t1_iu7qm50 wrote
The thing that gets me about humans having to leave Earth. Is the ridiculous amounts of money it would take to get us into space to colonize another planet and make it stable and productive enough to sustain Humanity. We could instead use that ridiculous amount of wealth to fix the fucking planet that's already at the right temperature already can sustain life and fix it first instead of going to a new planet fucking it up until we have to go to another planet how about we be responsible take care of what we have and then we can think about moving on to having something bigger. It would be like if you got your kid a car and they destroyed it by neglect. Then you going and buying them bigger and better car. That's not a rational response. Anyway that's my two cents
iiioiia t1_iua11ah wrote
> We could instead use that ridiculous amount of wealth to fix the fucking planet that's already at the right temperature already can sustain life and fix it first instead of going to a new planet fucking it up until we have to go to another planet how about we be responsible take care of what we have and then we can think about moving on to having something bigger.
Sir: you are making speculative claims about the abilities of humans....there is surely some evidence that supports your claim, but there is far, far more that contradicts it. At least according to current standard operating procedures. If only it was possible to change standards....damn you laws of physics, why do you constrain us humans so!!!
red75prime t1_iuh1w96 wrote
> It would be like if you got your kid a car and they destroyed it by neglect.
Nah. Humanity isn't a single intelligent agent. The analogy would be more like: people are wrecking a shared car and there's no central authority to assign responsibility of fixing it, so a smaller group of people starts building their own car, because they cannot unilaterally fix the shared one.
CuriousAndOutraged t1_iu4oi56 wrote
We already have screwed this planet... and 100% of the screwing have been done by scientists and engineers... highly paid professionals... actually the best paid professionals in the planet... teachers don't get 1% of their pay slip. it looks like the plan is to screw the rest of the universe...
Minute-Hyena-407 t1_iuc4tpm wrote
I don't understand what goes against the laws of physics in my argument? Cuz you did reply to me and not the question right because it would make more sense if you were replying to the actual question and not my response?