Ill_Department_2055 t1_itnitpj wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:11 PM

Reply to comment by SuperSirVexSmasher in Lab-grown meat could let humanity ignore a serious moral failing by phileconomicus

I don't think you've addressed the issue at all.

Plant "desires", lifeform hierarchies, and murder all are irrelevant to the question at hand of cannibalism.

SuperSirVexSmasher t1_itnjka0 wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:17 PM

Uh huh..

Ill_Department_2055 t1_itnkfao wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:23 PM

Well, does your monologue boil down to anything other than: "I think humans are special for really vague and spurious reasons, so I think their dead bodies are also strangely and inexplicably special." ?

SuperSirVexSmasher t1_itnkjcx wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:24 PM

Isn't that all it boils down to or is eating a human being ok?

Ill_Department_2055 t1_itnky2k wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:27 PM

That's what we call a false dichotomy.

SuperSirVexSmasher t1_itnln4d wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:32 PM

Either they're special and you can't eat a human or eating humans is okay = "false dichotomy." Okay, I can see you're not particularly keen on having a dialogue, you're just being toxic at this point.

Ill_Department_2055 t1_itnor08 wrote on October 24, 2022 at 11:56 PM

The issue is rather that you seem so uncomfortable with entertaining the notion that humans are not special or unique in moral value that you'd rather stoop to petty insults.

Edit: Sure, go ahead and block me rather than have to have a conversation that brings you face to face with the idea that maybe just maybe humans are not that special among animals and maybe just maybe that means you cannot just go around harming other animals. You'd rather insult me and block me and uncharitably assume I think we should harm humans than raise the status of other animals and think that maybe just maybe you should change your own habits. Just shows to go ya how deeply entrenched your ideology is.

SuperSirVexSmasher t1_itnqz66 wrote on October 25, 2022 at 12:13 AM

What the hell, when the did I insult you? I simply criticized your [pattern of] objection. If you think humans aren't privileged in relation to all other life on earth in this context then it's OK to destroy humans for your benefit the same way it's OK to destroy other things for your benefit - since it's all the same, right? I really don't think you believe that. I think you actually agree with me but don't want to play along. I don't think you actually disagree with me but are rather in a bad way and don't want to play along with the discussion. While I'm trying to explore this idea you're trying to explore ways you can pick at my responses to you. I think my assessment was correct. You may disagree.

What I've gotten so far is:

X - asks a few questions

Y - You demand: "Give me more"

X - gives you more

Y - "it wasn't good enough!"

X - "OK.."

Y - *Well i don't like your answer"

X - "But isn't it basically the answer?"

Y - "Wrong!"

X - "You're wrong!"

Y - "DON'T YOU LOB PETTY INSULTS AT ME!" D:<

Blueberry_206 t1_itprino wrote on October 25, 2022 at 12:39 PM

>If you think humans aren't privileged in relation to all other life on earth in this context then it's OK to destroy humans for your benefit the same way it's OK to destroy other things for your benefit - since it's all the same, right?

Maybe it's not OK to destroy anything for our benefit? That way - yes, it's all the same.