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get_it_together1 t1_isn8msi wrote

Reply to comment by Parking-Mud-1848 in Philip Kitcher argues that morality is a social technology designed to solve problems emerging from the fragility of human altruism. Morality can be evaluated objectively, but without assuming moral truths. The view makes sense against a Darwinian view of life, but it is not social Darwinism. by Ma3Ke4Li3

Who do you think led the abolition movements? You can try to split it up but ultimately many people in power who could have been oppressors rejected slavery and actively fought to end it. There were also numerous stories of slaveholders freeing their slaves although obviously this was an extreme minority.

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Parking-Mud-1848 t1_isn911u wrote

Former slaves, current slaves and sympathetic communities like Quakers lead abolition movements. Slaves typically lead slave uprisings. Most rich people were content to sit idly by

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get_it_together1 t1_isn9ckx wrote

My understanding of the history of the civil war is very different than “some quakers and slaves revolted”.

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ValyrianJedi t1_isns972 wrote

"It wasn't people convincing their oppressors to let them go on moral standing. It was abolitionist movements!". "And who lead abolitionist movements?". "Slaves and ex slaves, trying to convince oppressors to free people on moral standing".

Good lord this guys logic and reasoning is through the floor.

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Parking-Mud-1848 t1_isn9ify wrote

History is not spurred by power but by the demands of people. People in power do not move until they are moved

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that.”

-Abe Lincoln

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