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odiouscontemplater t1_isklwv4 wrote

“Morality is just a fiction used by the herd of inferior human beings to hold back the few superior men.”

― Friedrich Nietzsche.

That's it, nothing more special to it.

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Ma3Ke4Li3 OP t1_iskmxlp wrote

Well that's one way of looking at it. But good luck having a happy life with that attitude... Even in terms of game theory, you can derive a lot of moral norms from long-term successful strategies. Ken Binmore, Martin Nowak, and Oliver Scott Curry have done a lot of research in this area.

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Known-Midnight3555 t1_isl2b62 wrote

Morality may get in the way of some short term gains, which Nietzsche might be referring to with the idea of "superior men", but long term, you are right in that there are so many more morally sound strategies than there are morally devoid ones.

Profit motivated companies are a prime example of rejecting morality in favor of better short term gains, which often results in long term problems.

Politicians rejecting morality for short term gains with a relatively short voting cycle is another example. So many examples of politicians doing unsavory things in the short term to earn votes that will have an overall negative effect later.

This is all motivated by the idea that we have to be "getting ahead" of everyone else instead of just "getting along".

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VitriolicViolet t1_islxt5n wrote

lol to bad 'superior' men are a fantasy Nietzsche invented to cope with reality.

that quote is moronic at best, dangerous at worst. in all of human history the only people who have ever claimed superiority over the rest have been the most inferior of us all.

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DR_BLACKTHORNE t1_isl2wk7 wrote

Nietzsche was the father of a particular ideology too. That statement is directly tied to the philosophy that birthed that ideology and was a catalyst for events that show the absolute worst side of human nature. The capacity for evil is expanded when denying that good and evil exists and that is the framework that Nietzsche laid down in his writing.

Civilization is civilized. If you speak in simply dominance and submission and try to apply the laws of nature to an industrialized society, you really really make a mess with some faulty logic and in the end personify evil by being possessed by "the shadow".

EDIT: Downvote all you want goobers. I have the books and have read them. You probably haven't.

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