Segofer t1_isdk3ac wrote on October 15, 2022 at 3:34 AM

The biggest problem with philosophy besides its lack of inherent fundamentals is in my opinon the words. It is like teaching a Magikarp Flamethrower. Doesnt make any sense, you must evolve it into Gyarados first. That requires too much effort, it just doesnt make sense. You cant expect every Magikarp in the sea to evolve into Gyarados, they have better things to do than being super angry all the time.

Got it? Of course you didnt. You needed to be super knowledgeable about Pokemon of all things to get why Magikarps cant learn the move Flamethrower. It is that same way when you guys use references and very specific ideas to explain something. Dude, you cant just expect everyone to have read that very same book you did, as basic as it may seem to you. And if they did, why even mention it? They already got the ideas. You cant expect people to know "this is _____ fallacy" and even if you did, how would that help at all? The possibility for misuse is so huge you are better off explaining their mistake or the right logic. I guess if philosophy is as pointless as many people make it seem, and it is if it doesnt have the right fundamentals, goals and observations, it is better off not being a burden to society, and more of a hobby for nerds like you and me. This applies to vocabulary too, to a lesser degree. Still, if you want the widest range of people to understand you (if you agree with me that that is one of the valuable things you can put in everything you say) it is best to use simple vocab. I think it makes it seem more of a special club that way. I think I thought before the likely reason people said this is because they wanted to feel like part of an elite. Fair enough. I don't think so anymore, but I approve of you if you do so. I dont think it gives you charisma points though, if my short experience in r/iamverysmart is anything to judge off of. I guess it makes sense if you want to discuss that thing in particular, but once again that does make it seem like more of a club than a form of conversation. Tell me if u agree or disagree. I dont understand how this isnt fitting for a post so Ill repost this somewhere else noting the requirements in the rules.

Sea_Personality8559 t1_isdq261 wrote on October 15, 2022 at 4:33 AM

Seems like a skill issue

I mean

How hard is it to communicate? Semantics barrier? More like effort barrier.

Segofer t1_isdujg2 wrote on October 15, 2022 at 5:24 AM

It is indeed a skill issue but skilled communicators should be able to lower the skill bar for others. That is my opinion at least.

Sea_Personality8559 t1_isdxcb9 wrote on October 15, 2022 at 5:59 AM

Making something simple

Can be difficult or effortless

E = mc^2 a simple equation - but understanding is difficult especially creating the degree of understanding required to use it to its limits to more greatly understand the universe.

As it took great effort on Einstein's part to condense proofs and experiments to the formation of the equation - it will take similar effort to understand it from its simplicity to gain the understanding necessary to interact with it in a meaningful way.

Often I see a cycle in text communication where making communication simple leads to misunderstanding - requiring more complex explanation than would have been put forth without simplification at the onset.

This isn't always the case.

Communication takes effort - manipulation of speech personally seems disingenuine - not saying what you really think etc.

I've got more but I'm asleep.