Hot-Perception2018 t1_ir1prje wrote on October 4, 2022 at 6:16 PM

Reply to comment by MyNameIsNonYaBizniz in How to Live In A World That Makes No F*cking Sense: Nietzsche and the Search for Superhuman Laughter by simsquatched

You are touching at the core of Nietzsche problems, his premise is that all life is suffering i.e, meaningless, the discrimination between the Übermensch and the common comes in when you have strength to go beyond this suffering, beyond this lack of meaning. So, if God’s Death (reason why life is meaningless) you are Responsable to give your life its Meaning therefore leaving this state of being “dominated” by non action by no meaning.

Now if the commoner is happy with non action that is the reactive side of life or the state of just being adrift without any meaning to Nietzsche that is the lowest a Human can possible get and there is a lot of things to say to that but I digress.

Anyway Nietzsche never proposed to talk to everyone or “most people” as often we see in his writings, he starts with, “this isnt a book to everyone but to…”

Just trying to elucidate some topics on Nietzsche philosophy and its “range”.

MyNameIsNonYaBizniz t1_ir4rjfa wrote on October 5, 2022 at 10:12 AM

Sure, I agree, but if you are suffering intensely, it wont matter what anyone says, the only thing that concerns you then would be to fix the suffering first.

There is no such thing as an extremely happy sufferer of extreme pain, no matter how much they may try to rationalize their suffering.

Hot-Perception2018 t1_ir5bqom wrote on October 5, 2022 at 1:29 PM

That is Nietzsche point, no one can “free” you from your suffering just you yourself.

On another note, Nietzsche, and this extends to basically every philosopher, they are not addressing people who have its most basic necessities not met for some reason, that is beyond their problem, a problem of the world, Nietzsche is not talking to a person who by forces outside his control cannot eat.

Finally, I would not say Nietzsche is rationalizing anything, this is a very problematic concept in Nietzsche philosophy and he and certainly anyone who has read him would frown at the mention of Rationalization or Reason for that matter.