bellieout t1_iqpmnfs wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:25 AM

Can we please downvote this or have mods remove it, has literally nothing to do with this sub

Misanthropedup t1_iqpmujx wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:27 AM

Agreed

JackDMcLovin OP t1_iqpnl40 wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:35 AM

How, it's bad reasoning, if you can't tell how it's bad then you can't do adequate Philosophy.

bellieout t1_iqpnsdv wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:37 AM

Hey! Thanks for reaching out in reply back to me, I actually have no interest in having a conversation with you. Take care!

[deleted] t1_iqpetkx wrote on October 2, 2022 at 3:09 AM

Which side are you referring to?

Misanthropedup t1_iqpmgtg wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:23 AM

Yeah, I’m a bit confused.

EDIT: Right side, judging purely based on comment history.

[deleted] t1_iqpn7ms wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:31 AM

Gotcha. I was kinda confused about what the OP was getting at

JackDMcLovin OP t1_iqpn7mo wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:31 AM

The ones in the comments, and the "love is love". Pedophilia is love, does that make it okay?

[deleted] t1_iqpnbr0 wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:32 AM

I would not say pedophilia is love. Pedophilia is being sexually attracted to someone you most definitely should not be attracted to (minors).

Iceman_Hottie t1_iqpu0ib wrote on October 2, 2022 at 5:48 AM

It also follows the same pattern as abuse and domestic violence, due to the damage done to one of the parties in order to bring pleasure to the other.

JackDMcLovin OP t1_iqpnijp wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:34 AM

Philia means love

Iceman_Hottie t1_iqpuplo wrote on October 2, 2022 at 5:57 AM

Words can have several meanings, in this case attraction rather than love. An example would be hydrophilic molecules.

JackDMcLovin OP t1_iqpvose wrote on October 2, 2022 at 6:09 AM

Exactly, so is LGBT out of attraction, or out of a Christlike love? Are you doing it because you like it, or because that is what is right to do? And by right i mean your duty as a replicator.

Iceman_Hottie t1_iqpxtub wrote on October 2, 2022 at 6:36 AM

LGB (T is a separate thing) from a biological standpoint are variations of the reproductive instinct. The instinct itself evolutionarily came about a very long time ago and can be seen in pretty much all multicellular life.

Humans have evolved further as there is a need for a large parental investment for the offspring to survive, and have a mechanism that creates a neurological response based on the emotions of others that includes more complex interactions. For example feeling good after we have helped someone we care about (oxytocin and vasopressin associated dopamine response).

Therefore, for while not reproductively beneficial, LGB follows (or at least can follow) the rest of the patten of a healthy relationship. Circling back to the original topic, a mutually exclusive thing with pedophilia. Its a bit more complex than that, but that's the gist.

Manyoshu t1_iqpw8f1 wrote on October 2, 2022 at 6:16 AM

"Look at how bad other people are at reasoning!"

Goes on to base the entire content of an argument on an etymological fallacy.

Alright.

The etymological claim does not even add up, by the way, the modern concept of love is derived from a developed conception that mostly comes to us through Latin amor (equivalent to Greek érōs, not philía) which has been expanded and given new meaning over time. There is no direct translation so that "love" in the etymological origin of the word "pedophilia" has the same sense as "love" in the sentence "love is love".

[deleted] t1_iqpnnn5 wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:36 AM

Quote all the etymology you want. There's nothing about pedophilia that implicates real love. And the fact that you're trying to say it is (or at least say it is for the sake of your argument) is horrendous.

JackDMcLovin OP t1_iqpuxdt wrote on October 2, 2022 at 6:00 AM

Then you don't know what love is.

Iceman_Hottie t1_iqpvv8w wrote on October 2, 2022 at 6:11 AM

Not all love is equal. Is the love for your country the same as your SO? Is your love for pizza the same as your parents? In both cases the answer is no, hence "love is love" is a falce equivalency.

In the case of pedophilia it follows the pattern of abuse/abusive relationships rather than equitable and mutually beneficial ones. So you could say it is the same as the love for abusing and torturing.

MyNameIsNonYaBizniz t1_iqpfezx wrote on October 2, 2022 at 3:14 AM

Is this the philosophy sub or complain about people from other sub sub?

Misanthropedup t1_iqpmi3m wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:23 AM

Complain about other people sub according to this poster 💀

JackDMcLovin OP t1_iqpnadw wrote on October 2, 2022 at 4:32 AM

It's philosophy, back in the day people used to post my comments here and point out what was wrong with it. Same thing applies here.

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