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mfomatratzen t1_jddtcjx wrote

Hey that’s my uni! Tiny and boring little town. It is also considered to be the birthplace of the German flag and of the student societies.

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Hans_Guenther t1_jdeawgz wrote

Fellow Jenaer here!

Still a great place to study, work and have a wonderful life!

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Pseudo_Oli t1_jddul4w wrote

I love this story. I live in a small town called Sherbrooke in Quebec and I am involved in politic their. We elected our first "mairesse" and, during the celebration party, while being a bit drunk, I told her that Sherbrooke could be a new Jena : small town, rich and diverse university life, beautiful surroundings. I still believe we can build a community of friends here, something that can at least give birth to a thinking needed for our time.

In philosophy, we tend to think that arguments are won by reasons, I believe it's more a matter of being the right person at the right moment in the right circles at the right place and at the right time : the best we can do, is prepare ourselves to be make those conditions actual.

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mac7973 t1_jdhh9id wrote

"small town" of 170 000 just east of Montreal 😜

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Pseudo_Oli t1_jdhlz25 wrote

True "small" is relative but, taking into account the scale of the city, those 170k are pretty scattered.

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heehoohorseshoe t1_jdeb98e wrote

God I'm sick of hearing about the Jena set. A whole lot of drama and not much original philosophy. It's notable more for being Germany's answer to early romantics than any genuine accomplishment. https://archive.ph/sKHKH sums up a lot of my thoughts on the group and the people who write about them

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Domovnik_ t1_jdecut2 wrote

It's not for everyone.

I'm curious of what you think is being summarised in the article. The only thing approaching evaluation is the author's woeful misrepresentation of Fichte's thought, and completely reductive and mischaracterized relation of the Jena intellectuals to Rousseau. Rousseau was a of course a significant influence, but not more than the Greeks, Spinoza, Kant, etc.

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heehoohorseshoe t1_jdf7wop wrote

The author sounds a lot like several other Jena set fans I've talked about, who also claim they were more influential than most would say they were, and often have similarly bizarre takes on Fichte. I actually don't have much beef with the Jena set themselves, they're not my cup of tea but generally are fine, it's how they're lauded as trendsetters and revolutionary thinkers by too many people I know much like the author discussed above.

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Bribbbbel t1_jdliroo wrote

They were trendsetters in many regards though, especially the broader circle, e.g. Schleiermacher in Theology, the Schlegel brothers in Literature, Schelling, Hegel and Fichte specifically in Philosophy. That was a really interesting time to say the least.

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Magikarpeles t1_jdgvm4i wrote

Amazing to think none of us would be conscious without them

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HumanSeeing t1_jdh2j4k wrote

So we didn't have consciousness before that? That's amazing. Thank you Germans for all of this rich experience of consciousness!

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captainsalmonpants t1_jdhkb0j wrote

No, no! We didn't have "modern" consciousness before that. Just be thankful that you don't instead have that dusty old pre-modern variety.

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Thromocrat t1_jdi0r6i wrote

We are so sorry. We tried to remedy it with all the beer after the fact but that only makes it worse most of the time.

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ktrezzi t1_jdf1xjs wrote

I didn't no read the article (yet), I'm sorry if this is mentioned there.

But there is a whole book called "Fabolous rebels" (Fabelhafte Rebellen in German) covering the whole span of this topic, I really enjoyed reading it!

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gdoveri t1_jdjphyo wrote

The author of Fabelhafte Rebellen is the author of the article.

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Heliatlas t1_jde8jgk wrote

I went to uni in Jena no way :D It's a nice city

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shylocxs t1_jdh32qz wrote

I've always wanted to visit Jena, if for no other reason than to walk in the footsteps of Hegel and Napoleon point of proximity.

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scotrider t1_jdg9rn4 wrote

Jena pog The best collection of minds in a single location since ancient Athens

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