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hiraeth555 t1_jax6s6n wrote

Seems to me like his only mistake is levelling reasoned criticism against the quite aggressive trans rights activists that seem to have a disproportionate amount of influence over policy...

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PooPartySoraka t1_jax950u wrote

would you provide an example of the "disproportionate amount of influence over policy"?

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Mysterious_Secrets t1_jaxdr15 wrote

You see, minorities are small groups, so anything set up to protect them in any way is "disproportionate". But seriously, it's actually the opposite. There are a ridiculous amount of anti trans bills coming out the last few years. We're the new wedge issue conservatives use to rally their base with hate.

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PooPartySoraka t1_jaxgdv1 wrote

these mfers will type "you can't just say he's transphobic the word will lose all meaning" and then type "his only mistake is levelling reasoned criticism against the quite aggressive trans rights activists" like Bruh...

stay strong friend<3

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dasus t1_jay3ejx wrote

I think the keyword in his sentence is "seem to have a.. "

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hiraeth555 t1_jaxuhcv wrote

Well if you read about Tavistock you’ll see that children came to harm because of political pressure from trans activists.

I support trans rights unequivocally, but it is completely reasonable to challenge and scrutinise the process and systems in place around transitioning considering it’s long term effects.

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PooPartySoraka t1_jaxx1wt wrote

sure, but that's not at all what you said in your original post. thanks for your reply

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hiraeth555 t1_jay77om wrote

You don't think some of the policies of places like Tavistock are down to political pressure from activists?

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PooPartySoraka t1_jayxon6 wrote

i dont think you have given me any evidence to back up your claim, is my point. you made a very specific statement and you have not provided any direct evidence to support that statement.

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hiraeth555 t1_jazqat2 wrote

Well my evidence is that Tavistock has been reported as a “conveyor belt to puberty blockers” and high levels of encouragement for surgery, as well as basing these interventions on poor or no research.

My claim was that social and political pressure from trans activists has created an environment where decisions are made not on the best medical information and what is right for an individual, but instead, there is an idiological environment that encourages medical intervention.

Is that not exactly what has been reported?

There is a reluctance by people in this thread to acknowledge that one of the flagship NHS gender practices may be operating in a way that pushes children into hormone and surgery interventions- this is despite thorough investigation by the NHS regulator, independent journalists, and many patients and doctors coming forward.

It looks an awful lot like people have decided that any criticism or anything related to transgender issues or trans activism must be transphobia.

Evidence for you below, or check out any number of articles on Tavistock

https://www.ft.com/content/a45a9a0b-5d2f-4c4a-b2ef-6a8796ea5d10

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hiraeth555 t1_jb48i6m wrote

Didn’t fancy replying to my last response?

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PooPartySoraka t1_jb4ygsf wrote

no it's a waste of my time. you couldn't provide even 1 example of what you claimed and that was immediately obvious. bye

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hiraeth555 t1_jb50l05 wrote

Except I did and you stopped responding

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PooPartySoraka t1_jb6xyaz wrote

i asked you to give me a specific example of what you called a disproportionate amount of influence over policy, and you asked me a question. you did not give me any example. if you can provide me an example to support your statement, we can continue the discussion. you have not done so. i'll respond when you do thanks

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Beneficial-Hornet147 t1_jaxtiwp wrote

Saying trans rights activist have a disproportionate amount of Influence over policy while we are actively watching bills signed to limit their gender affirming care is laughably inaccurate. Are you trolling?

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hiraeth555 t1_jaxuvxt wrote

What bills are you referring to?

I am not anti-trans, and think that people should have access to care and treatment if needed.

But it is undeniable that there are elements of ideology shaping the medical practice which I think should remain separate.

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Beneficial-Hornet147 t1_jay5ufy wrote

There 378 anti trans bills being tracked across the country and please specify these ideologies that are infiltrating medical practice https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights

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hiraeth555 t1_jay72jo wrote

Well I'm not an American for starters...

Why would I know what bills are going through in the USA?

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1049-Gotho t1_jb6159v wrote

Sorry, are you under the impression that legislation in the UK is being dominated by trans rights activists? Given what's currently happening to the GRR in Scotland and that plans to ban conversion therapy don't include trans conversion therapy, how are you possibly claiming this?

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