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[deleted] t1_j9jgz4v wrote

You make it out like the opposite of being forced to leave your neighborhood is being forced to stay in your neighborhood! It's a false dichotomy that you have committed here!

People want the ability to continue to live in their homes. And the ability to leave them. They want freedom.

Honestly, I can't believe that this intellectual dishonesty is present in a discussion on philosophy.

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IlllIllIllIllIlllllI t1_j9jl6ju wrote

No one is forced to leave their community. I’m of course defining force as violent government aggression or threat thereof. But of course that’s precisely the force you WOULD need to prevent gentrification and force people from moving.

It’s morally abhorrent under virtually any philosophical framework.

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[deleted] t1_j9jz3xx wrote

The force being used against the people is economic. It boils down to violent force because, in the end, the police will enforce it with violence. It might as well be a violent force.

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Mparker15 t1_j9l3fav wrote

If you can no longer afford housing and are evicted the state will literally violently remove you. That is the end result of being priced out of your home.

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mrmrmrj t1_j9jwol6 wrote

People have the freedom to change communities or they do not. I am saying that any attempt to finesse that fact is intellectually dishonest.

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[deleted] t1_j9jyqyo wrote

Poor people want their community to improve without having to leave.

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Mparker15 t1_j9l3jkv wrote

I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand

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[deleted] t1_j9ljspw wrote

Like Zizek et al said, it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

We are so indoctrinated into capitalism that it's impossible to imagine any other way.

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