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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j8rss2y wrote

Reply to comment by dankest_cucumber in Free Will Is Only an Illusion if You Are, Too by greghickey5

>It depends on who you consider to a be a philosopher

Someone once posted, most lay people have compatibilist intuitions, most professional philosophers are outright compatibilists, but amateur philosophers are incompatibilists.

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answermethis0816 t1_j8rukxr wrote

I agree, but I think the difference between the professional and amateur philosopher in that assessment is how they define free will. Professional philosophers who are compatibilists are using a more narrow, very specific definition of free will, while the amateur determinist is using the broader colloquial definition.

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j8rx92e wrote

The way I see it is that professional philosophers are using the definition of what people "really" mean by the term. Amateur philosophers are using some weird incoherent definition that doesn't exist and hence isn't what people really mean by the term.

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answermethis0816 t1_j8rxvja wrote

A determinist would agree that it’s incoherent… which is why they are determinist, no?

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j8ryr8x wrote

>A determinist would agree that it’s incoherent… which is why they are determinist, no?

Nearly all compatibilists are determinists.

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answermethis0816 t1_j8scjtu wrote

Sorry, I'm using determinist to mean hard determinist. I intentionally avoided incompatibilist since that also includes libertarianians.

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