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Reply to comment by yelbesed2 in “The principle of protecting our own thinking from eavesdroppers is fundamental to autonomy.” – Daniel Dennett debates the sort of free will it’s worth wanting with neuroscientists Patrick Haggard and philosopher Helen Steward by IAI_Admin
As I’ve already attempted to reply, if you are being eavesdropped, your thoughts most certainly are probs not free. A line out for listening necessarily means there is a line in for introduction, introducing and literally spelling and telling you which then amounts to jot your brain product of thoughts at all
At that point, whether recognized or not by the human possessing that particular brain, there is no freedom, no possible agencies and choice has forever been removed.
I struggle with why this is a difficult notion. I’ve far more difficulty accepting there is agency and free will as long as the person supposedly possessing it is unaware of their manipulation
To me free will, agency and autonomy must necessarily encapsulate more than just the progenitors BELIEF it is real. Post modernism suggests only a souls interpretation creates a reality
I am firmly in the belief structure that your experience of reality and the outer facts of reality you may not be aware of constitute a more whole picture of true reality.
If one is being influenced, coerced and or controlled by information, it completely influences the truth of the reality, and causality. Just because one may be unaware of causality does not mean it’s not creating false causation. It may create a situation that creates a certain view of reality, but fails in making it true, if how the reality is caused and perceived isn’t known, it’s a deceptive process
Reality exists with facts and truth beyond the simple experience of it if the introduced control is causal, then it may be a reality but the causality is inherently deceptive and absolutely controlled
I think it’s worthwhile for anyone participating here and therefore acknowledging it would even be possible for an individuals’ thoughts to be monitored or even be broadcasted to others around them, to wholly empatheticaly imagine what that would be like for the individual
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