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varmisciousknid t1_j7y4m9j wrote

Reply to comment by Gloomy_Scene126 in Freedom is found beyond dualism : Frithjof Bergmann’s model of freedom from a nondual perspective. by Gloomy_Scene126

The article was talking about there being separate flow states, one for art and one for academia, that's what I was talking about

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Gloomy_Scene126 OP t1_j7y54cc wrote

The article only mentioned the flow state insofar as it relates to freedom and identity

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varmisciousknid t1_j7y6565 wrote

Towards the end of "the ground beneath the fence"

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Gloomy_Scene126 OP t1_j7y96hk wrote

The end of that section is differentiating between Bergmann and Spira’s view of flow state….in other words it’s establishing the difference between the flow state as seen from a dualistic vs a nondualistic perspective. It uses an example to demonstrate how Bergmann’s dualistic flow works….if I’m identified with my my reasoning skills then I will feel free and therefore enter the flow state while reasoning. Not sure where you’re getting the art and academia idea from.

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varmisciousknid t1_j7z37kr wrote

I suppose I am making a bit of a leap. He says he's identified with reasoning and can enter flow while reasoning. What kind of tasks do people do while reasoning? Academic type tasks, as opposed to doing more artistic tasks which don't involve reasoning such as improvisation

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Gloomy_Scene126 OP t1_j7zfsr7 wrote

Yes I mean you’re not wrong in saying that one can be identified with academic tasks and dissociated from artistic tasks or vice versa, which ultimately determines the situations in which theyre able to enter into the flow state; but these are just more examples demonstrating how Bergmann’s dualistic flow works. It’s not really being suggested that academic and artistic are specifically two types of flow, because this isn’t central to the point being made by the article.

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