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Chance-Conclusion-43 t1_j7vbj2n wrote
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One, that makes no sense. Sex is a classification because it is part of material, empirical reality.
Two, intersex is NOT an example of more than two sexes. I am literally studying biology in university. That's like saying that because some people have a birth defect that gives them six fingers on each hand, that humans as a species don't have five fingers on each hand.
SnapcasterWizard t1_j7vif6w wrote
>One, that makes no sense. Sex is a classification because it is part of material, empirical reality.
You are fighting a losing war here. Bulter is a post modernist, they don't just disagree with your conclusions, they disagree with the entirety of how you got there. To a post modernist the statement,
" it is part of material, empirical reality."
Is already were they are disagreeing with you. Material, empirical reality either does not exist or is impossible to discover according to them.
InterminableAnalysis t1_j7viq5d wrote
>Sex is a classification because it is part of material, empirical reality
There is no such thing as a classification outside of the abilities of a sense-making being. It doesn't mean that, if humans don't exist then there are no such things as, say, apples. What it means is that a classification is explicitly the work of sense-making beings (e.g. humans).
>That's like saying that because some people have a birth defect that gives them six fingers on each hand, that humans as a species don't have five fingers on each hand.
No, the appropriate analogy would be to question "birth defects". What makes a person with six fingers "defective"? Establishing a norm requires looking at variation and deciding what the norm is for. If the norm just means "statistical average", then that's fine, but it doesn't mean that a person with six fingers doesn't have a hand, it just means that it's a hand differently composed than the statistical average. Intersex classification is differently composed from the statistical average of male/female and so cannot be subsumed as either one.
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