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spurius_tadius t1_j4gvgpo wrote

>Once you start actually locking murderers and shooters up em masse, the violent crimes will go down. It's not a huge swath of people who commit such crimes, it's a few thousands out of 1.6 million

It's understandable that folks would think that, but crime has been around a LONG TIME and NO ONE has actually figured out how to solve it. It is NOT "simple". There is nothing simple about dealing with crime.

In particular, the "focus on violent offenders" idea has been tried ad nauseum, over and over again in the US and internationally. It never worked. Why? Because for every violent offender you take off the street, there's another one will take their place and "graduate" into violent crime after YEARS of having practiced petty nuisance crimes that never merited attention because everyone is so focused on thug vs thug murdering. And you know what? Locking people up doesn't deter others from whatever is attracting them to commit crimes. The people who do these things DO NOT think like you do.

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TreeMac12 t1_j4ig4no wrote

Violent crime and specifically murders went down almost every year starting in 1994:

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murder-homicide-rate

It might have had something to do with this:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355/text

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spurius_tadius t1_j4jj9wl wrote

Well, I guess it's all solved and we have nothing to worry about then?

Sorry, but I remember that bill, it was yet another attempt at "getting tough on crime". I suppose it may have helped some crimes in some places, but really, by the time someone is "caught" and charged with federal crimes, it's too late. They've already done incalculable damage to the fabric of civilized society with all the crimes for which they've NOT been caught nor charged for.

The fact is crime goes up and down. Law enforcement and the courts can only do so much.

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