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fritolazee t1_j221pl6 wrote

East Passyunk seems relatively free of shootings. It's almost like there's a force field from Broad -7th and Snyder to Washington...must be the combo of old mafia dudes "handling things" and relative wealth.

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GruffEnglishGentlman t1_j22hpq9 wrote

Probably has more to do with the fact that the people who live there buy a lot less fentanyl and crack from street dealers than, say, K&A.

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ageofadzz t1_j22d2tr wrote

East Passyunk free of shootings champs 2022

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CookedDenimRawPizza t1_j2228h8 wrote

Don’t overthink it. That strip is just less wealthy and will be the last to (fully) gentrify in South Philly. 7th isn’t super walkable to the BSL and it isn’t really close to 95. It’s not a no man’s land, but it tracks that it is the least “developed”.

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fritolazee t1_j225sgu wrote

I was halfway joking but in seriousness, I always thought there were a couple gangs based on 5th and 7th in particular.

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Rotaryknight t1_j22k5t8 wrote

5th street, 7th street and dickinson gangs all disappeared. I grew up with many of them and some of them are in jail....but mostly the old heads grew the fuck up and became parents.
There used to be turf wars in the east passyunk area with Dickinson narrows? but that died down because they all went seperate ways

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fritolazee t1_j24tavn wrote

Thanks for the info. Sad to see so many young lives lost like that.

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Rotaryknight t1_j22jzte wrote

How bad can snyder be? I used to walk from 5th snyder to broad to get on the BSL everyday to go to school and the way back home. 5th and moore, and 6th and mckean used to be the hot spot in the 90s, but compared to then, everything is very walkable in south philly in my eyes...

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CookedDenimRawPizza t1_j22kx92 wrote

I guess I should say it is walkable to you and I, but many people won’t walk that distance regardless of location.

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ColdJay64 t1_j225dt7 wrote

Do you think it will take longer than Point Breeze/Gray’s Ferry?

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CookedDenimRawPizza t1_j22632d wrote

I guess I really should have said “last to gentrify in South Philly east of Broad”. Was definitely only thinking on the east side when I wrote that.

To answer your question/make a guess… Point Breeze will probably gentrify fully before the strip around 7th. Grays Ferry probably gentrifies last even though it seems like developers are trying to make it happen. Personally I don’t quite get it. It’s transit connections are poor and it’s not particularly walkable. I guess with how close it is to PB and Grad Hospital combined with how cheap the real estate is (was?), people will try.

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ColdJay64 t1_j229gdy wrote

Gotcha, that makes sense. I did some exploring around 7th, south of Snyder and it's a pretty interesting place. Definitely no new development, but I was surprised by the amount of restaurants and stores.

Was just wondering because I did think you meant all of South Philly, and I recently moved to the 23rd and Federal (ish) area. It is somewhat gentrified but has awhile to go - with a lot going on around the corner on Washington Ave. My block is a nice mix of people who have lived here their whole lives, and UPenn employees.

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GruffEnglishGentlman t1_j22hivx wrote

Grey’s Ferry abuts some massive housing projects. It is not going to gentrify any time soon, with the possible exceptions of areas on its northern and eastern fringe.

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