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bigmoneyswagger t1_iys4a10 wrote

Reply to comment by Raecino in University of Pennsylvania student attacked in Center City; female suspect sought by JBizznass

The rates of these attacks are astronomically low. You need to consider how many people / trains are in NYC. Naturally there are more incidences, but as a % they are extremely low.

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Adventurous_Key3647 t1_iys56br wrote

This is what I think. Plus it’s just like herd mentality for me. I feel safer knowing that if I go onto a subway in nyc at any time it will be packed with people. In Philly, rush hour might even have just 1 or 2 people. And I’ve just been targeted one too many times already. I no longer take the train here.

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Do_it_with_care t1_iysccxv wrote

Your right they are low. I see thousands of people riding every day and traveling with my Nurse bag into some seedy areas I’ve not had a problem in 30 years. Keep in mind millions of folks take public transport every day. There’s over 8 million people living in such a tight area, so yeah it’s amazing the amount of freedom there is compared to other cities, considering that the danger is low. Born and raised in Philly during the 60’s & 70’s and didn’t have a problem either. Sure they’re mentally ill folks but not as wild as some of the countries I’ve stayed in abroad.

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Raecino t1_iys5489 wrote

The rates of the attacks are high, not low. I’m not sure where you got that from but I’ve seen the difference with my own eyes and from experiences of family and friends who live in NYC. Philly is more dangerous than New York there’s no question about that, but attacks from mentally ill people on the subway happen much more frequently in New York than in Philly.

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bigmoneyswagger t1_iys5qx6 wrote

They happen more frequently because there are astronomically more trains / rides. We literally have 3 light rail lines.

You need to look at rates not gross number of incidences. That’s like saying there are more murders in nyc than Philly so nyc is less safe. Makes no sense.

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Accomplished-Low-173 t1_iysa481 wrote

The funny (sad) thing is, Philly has not only a higher murder rate then NYC, but also way more murders in absolute numbers.

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Raecino t1_iys649r wrote

There’s more murders in Philly though, not just comparing rates. And going by the rate I’d still say there are more attacks on nyc trains. You wouldn’t know that if you didn’t spend considerable time in NYC taking the subway.

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bigmoneyswagger t1_iys6dwl wrote

I think it’s well known NYC trains are safer than Philly trains. So I’ll just leave it at that, not worth arguing further.

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Accomplished-Low-173 t1_iysa84s wrote

Have you actually taken the subway? It isn’t only much safer then septa, it feels like it too.

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Raecino t1_iysgn38 wrote

I lived in NYC for 12 years, and yes I was taking the subway the entire time I lived there. I witnessed violence more often on New York trains than I ever have in Philly. People get pushed in front of trains far more often in New York than happens here in Philly.

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TantricEmu t1_iysmlt5 wrote

Just because you ride the subway in NYC doesn’t mean you know the numbers of frequency and rates of violence. This info is collected and analyzed, not based on “feel” of people who live there.

I haven’t checked either numbers so I’m not making any claims here, maybe you’re right or wrong, but your experience of riding the subway isn’t exactly scientific.

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Raecino t1_iyt691j wrote

So check the numbers and come back and tell us. Because I can guarantee you the numbers back what I’m saying. You didn’t live in NYC did you, so how would you know? Since you don’t have the numbers or the “feel” to be able to argue this with me. Show me some facts if you have them.

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TantricEmu t1_iyt6nkk wrote

Well I don’t care that much, but you seem convinced. I’m also not making any claims. You are making claims though, so why don’t you show some numbers?

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