Submitted by PhillyPanda t3_yvhwkd in philadelphia
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CauliflowerFront3706 t1_iweqbqr wrote
Great. Another couple with a doodle
DelcoWolv t1_iweqxt6 wrote
Yeah this made me feel very, very old.
William_d7 t1_iwerlv1 wrote
And depressed.
fronkyponky t1_iwes07u wrote
God dammit can people just open normal bars and restaurants in this part of town? We just got a new vegan coffee shop that only provides oat milk as creamer.
hedgebuster278 t1_iweu0tr wrote
And so the North Star bar went to the dogs. đ€Šđ»ââïž I love my pups but damn. This kind of sucks. Thirty four years replaced by a dog bar. Maybe Iâm old and the times have passed me by.
MathisBrothers t1_iweyoyy wrote
At risk of sounding like a curmudgeon, what a tacky idea for a bar.
presidentpiko t1_iwez2oo wrote
Name sucks lol
kittylover3210 t1_iwf0ihs wrote
oat milk is so good in coffee
watwatinjoemamasbutt t1_iwf1pkm wrote
Nowhere to walk your dog?! Fairmount park is 4 blocks from there.
SpauldingSmails18 t1_iwf2jly wrote
What a waste
passing-stranger t1_iwf2x4a wrote
This sounds like the imaginary business coworkers would joke about opening while we dreamed of escaping our crap place of employment. Weird to see someone try to turn it into a viable business model but good luck I guess? I hope they have more experience with dogs than just the pandemic pup they recently adopted.
"Say itâs raining out. I still have to take him for a walk, and thereâs not many parks available, and if there are, there are certain drawbacks to each of them, whether itâs they have trash or theyâre dirty, and I got to give them a bath or whatever else."
So instead you...what, drive your dog to the dog bar to do his business? Lol
Eta: "Although toys will be sold, dogs cannot use them at the Boozy Mutt to minimize the risk of fights. Staff members, known as ârufferies,â will keep an eye on the proceedings. Dogs will be off-leash"
I don't know what these "rufferies" will be paid but I can already tell it's not enough
Philodemus1984 t1_iwf31j8 wrote
Hard pass
passing-stranger t1_iwf320h wrote
Would you expect this business idea to come from anyone other than a doodle owner?
fridaynewsdump21jump t1_iwf4urb wrote
Trust fund kids?
fridaynewsdump21jump t1_iwf4ydb wrote
I canât see this doing well
thespiff t1_iwf5ov0 wrote
Yeah this article is where I realized Iâm officially old.
Donât wanna wish ill on this couple of bright eyed dreamers, but sure doesnât feel like a young professional couple with dogs instead of kids kinda vibe in dog-walking distance of North Star. Also that place should be a concert venue.
tnymnt t1_iwf5pdc wrote
beeps and boops! caught your set once or twice over the years - legend
palerthanrice t1_iwf8bk5 wrote
These people must have money to burn.
SpauldingSmails18 t1_iwf8zzg wrote
Insurance costs are going to be ridic.
Brunch_Included t1_iwf9iow wrote
They seem like decent people, but this location could be (and deserves to be) the perfect neighborhood social gathering space, not a poorly considered novelty. I look forward to whoever renovates again after this concept fails. North Star is sorely missed and still has so much potential.
poopfeast t1_iwfaju9 wrote
The only creatures that hate this idea more than I do are my dogs
poopfeast t1_iwfaou4 wrote
Second only to actual milk
Eastcoastconnie t1_iwfctlt wrote
BAHAHA you have got to be kidding me⊠this reads like an onion article. Urinetown for dogs. Theyâre in for a ruff time.
Eastcoastconnie t1_iwfddl8 wrote
Nope, young person here and I hate it too. I think some wealthy millennials are just unbearably twee and think stuff like this is a good idea because no oneâs ever told them no
edit: am millennial
ILoveKittensAndCats t1_iwffevq wrote
It really does.
H0tVinegar t1_iwfzdvv wrote
What are some of your favorite shows you attended at North Star?
trashpandarevolution t1_iwg3ob8 wrote
Honestly to all yâall complaining, if you wanted a music venue or North Star II, you coulda done it yourself. You didnât, for a decade.
But thankfully somebody is making something out of an abandoned vacant building. And with the amount of dogs here, yeah itâs gonna do well. Sorry itâs not your shit or whatever
And honestly, I doubt you would have gone to grunge show here anyway. Sounds like you prefer bitching on the world wide web
BottleTemple t1_iwg45ex wrote
So this is going to be yet another restaurant in the area with dogs in it? No thanks.
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dustycase2 t1_iwg4fcm wrote
Lame af. North Star deserved more.
dustycase2 t1_iwg4l2c wrote
âIf only you had a couple million dollars for your own bad business scheme!â
thespiff t1_iwg4owi wrote
Last show I saw there was Dick Dale. That was pretty cool.
thespiff t1_iwg5law wrote
Youâre at least partially right. I have a dream of owning a bar/venue one day but it never occurred to me until now that this could have been the spot. And I just drove by it a week ago and noted itâs still closed. (I got detoured past it due to the trolley construction on Girard.)
Where you are wrong is that if it were an active music venue now, I would go to shows there. With that and Boot & Saddle gone, last small venue weâve got seems to be Johnny Brendaâs. And first Unitarian I guess.
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thepdogg t1_iwg6qdv wrote
Same. That was on my 21st birthday. He was amazing!
GooFoYouPal t1_iwga8e7 wrote
Do rich parents just give their kids money and not actually care what they do with it?
hedgebuster278 t1_iwgafma wrote
đ€Ł I also am a millennial.
Karineh t1_iwgafup wrote
Way too much going on for a concept⊠a boutique, dog washing station and bar?
Not going to last
solushsi t1_iwgeo2o wrote
How so?
wheelfoot t1_iwgfbkw wrote
I was at that show too! My buddy got his Surfcaster signed by Dick after that show.
kdeltar t1_iwgfue5 wrote
While I agree with the oat milk person, not even offering milk as a cafe is strange
SevenStrats t1_iwgg76k wrote
offleash + owners drinking not paying undivided attention = North Philly Dog Fights in seconds flat.
wheelfoot t1_iwggbc5 wrote
That sentence about rain and parks and baths really tells you who these people are. The park had trash in it so I have to give my dog a bath? Its raining so its hard to walk my dog? I don't think they even understand what responsibilities come with dog ownership.
GooFoYouPal t1_iwghuir wrote
Itâs hard to do anything after a case of beer at the dog park.
emk544 t1_iwgj16a wrote
In light of all the negative posts here, I will say that there is a Dog Bar in St. Pete Florida that actually does really well and has managed to keep things under control for many years. It sounds very similar to what they're describing, refs and all. Doesn't mean this will work, and this couple sounds a little annoying, but it's not some unprecedented rich millennial wet dream. This does exist elsewhere.
poopfeast t1_iwgloed wrote
Itâs a vegan bakery, not really a vegan coffee shop - they just serve coffee. I love oat milk honestly but I do prefer actual milk in my coffee if I have the choice
ReginaldStarfire t1_iwgmpzd wrote
I saw Phoenix on their first North American tour. There were MAYBE 75 people there. It remains my greatest concert achievement.
ReginaldStarfire t1_iwgn586 wrote
I'm sure they saw the Bark Social people printing money and thought "We could do this, how hard could it be?" What's interesting is that Bark Social is opening a Manayunk location soon, so now there are going to be TWO dog bars in Philadelphia when there used to be none.
Browncoat23 t1_iwgnypj wrote
Drunk people and off-leash dogs. Name a worse duo.
Personal injury lawyers should just camp outside and wait for the money to roll in.
bfmcgo2 t1_iwgoda7 wrote
This is correct and I expect this to be wildly successful. Additionally, I'd think this would be welcomed by the community as it's decidedly a bar for dogs, ergo less dogs at other bars/restaurants that allow them in the door.
Sn4tch t1_iwgpz1x wrote
Itâs also NOT a bakery. They get almost all of their baked goods from Kismet and Ursa. Not shit talking them, I dig their cosmic brownies but calling it a bakery makes me laugh a bit.
Sn4tch t1_iwgq2tv wrote
Lol my dog fucking loves the rain. Doodle owners manâŠ
Sn4tch t1_iwgq98f wrote
I saw Tom Morello and Dustin Kensrue at North Star a while back. Also my buddyâs band Black Dirty. I miss that spot, I walk by it daily.
porkchameleon t1_iwgrkl4 wrote
Good luck to them, but this is peak white people shit.
Like someone already said - this is an idea you throw around and throw away, not actually bring to life. Let's see if they last even 6 months (or even two).
H0tVinegar t1_iwgrkro wrote
Yes! I also saw Dick Dale there
Geo_Music t1_iwgzhgk wrote
And entitled dog people congregating together.
Geo_Music t1_iwgztvb wrote
Yea offleash pitbulls that you see in the city mixing with little designer dogs sounds like a great mix
MathisBrothers t1_iwh09n3 wrote
Either they work in a high paying field, have rich parents, or both.
Geo_Music t1_iwh0x7i wrote
Maybe that's part of the plan? "Ruff and Roll" for the yacht rock crowd. "Poop-Step" for the electronica. This concept just amuses me because it's the last place I'd want to go.
a-german-muffin t1_iwh71rd wrote
It's an objectively terrible idea that'll fail... eh, probably within a year. As others have pointed out, there's no neighborhood draw â Lemon Hill and the weird triangle between Fairmount/Pennsylvania/Kelly are the neighborhood's two unofficial dog parks, and they're both less than five blocks from North Star.
It also doesn't have a built-in draw like, say, Le Cat Cafe â why the fuck would the average person want to go hang out at a bar with a bunch of potentially unruly dogs around, especially someone else's dogs?
And on top of everything else, this thing's gonna end up being a standing health code violation. I don't care what they end up working out with the city to open in the first place, there's no way they hold it up in the long term. Just way too many opportunities for failure left and right.
a-german-muffin t1_iwh7bou wrote
"Jobs in healthcare" is probably shorthand for "pharma reps."
missdeweydell t1_iwh8moy wrote
rich people are failing upwards and water is wet, news at 11.
missdeweydell t1_iwh8war wrote
the people with great ideas rarely have the benefit of unearned wealth to experiment with, like these dorks.
BottleTemple t1_iwhbia5 wrote
I mean, I know itâs not the same exact thing, but Good Dog has been around for ages.
BottleTemple t1_iwhcvxv wrote
And Solar Myth (which replaced Boot & Saddle), Kung Fu Necktie, Chrisâ JazzCafe, South, Underground Arts, Union Transfer, Milkboy, Time, PhilaMOCA, etc.
BottleTemple t1_iwhd25b wrote
The OâDeath show I went to there was fantastic.
poopfeast t1_iwhemxk wrote
Yeah I thought about adding that caveat too, didnât want to sound like I was shitting on them because I am glad theyâre there
Sn4tch t1_iwhgxl5 wrote
had someone make the mistake of saying to myself and my wife they hate that they mark up the bread JUST because its vegan. And we were both like....uhhhhh a LOT of bread is already "vegan friendly" and I'm not even a vegan, I devour a good piece of red meat from Spot Burger often.
owenhinton98 t1_iwhpaby wrote
The electronica style you mentioned gave me a visual of what could potentially happen to me if I go there, and I went from neutral to leaning towards no on the idea
Geo_Music t1_iwicli1 wrote
lol glad my random reddit comment proved useful to someone out there
CauliflowerFront3706 t1_iwijvyh wrote
Nope đ
passing-stranger t1_iwimi4i wrote
Not all of us đ«
ConfiaEnElProceso t1_iwixbep wrote
Gotta love Philly shitting on a good idea because of nostalgia and a hatred of yuppies with pets.
I am sorry they closed down the North Star. It sounds like a place i would have loved.
That said, a place i can have a drink and being my pup is a place I'll go. Especially in walking distance. In other cities these aren't "novelties" they have been around for years and have proven successful. Maybe it's not the perfect neighborhood for the concept but given the number of mutts i see out at Lemon Hill, the park on Pennsylvania, and Jefferson St. fields, I think there is a clientele.
I hope it works.
hatramroany t1_iwjhn60 wrote
Those are just buzzwords. Itâs just a dog friendly bar that serves food and will sell dog toys. Itâs not a lot going on
hatramroany t1_iwjld6k wrote
Yeah some of the comments in here are hilariously out of touch. Maybe itâll fail but the âguaranteed itâll fail in a yearâ comments are absurd
beeps-n-boops t1_iwem88d wrote
Neat idea, and I wish them well... but I really really really really really miss the North Star. Saw so many great shows there, and played there a bunch of times as well.