Submitted by electric_ranger t3_ydwovo in philadelphia
AbsentEmpire t1_ituw7q4 wrote
I think if he gets a retrial and Krasner celebrates it, Republicans will win the governor and senate races as this will be viewed by the general public as Krasner and the Democrats going soft on crime.
Marko_Ramius1 t1_ituwjnh wrote
Faulkner's widow was w/ the Oz camp at the debate yesterday so it definitely helps them with hammering Fetterman being soft on crime if there's a retrial. I think Shapiro won't be affected because there are numerous instances where he's had to step in and take charge when Krasner's been a fuckhead
Empigee t1_itvjqed wrote
Frankly, I've lost sympathy for the widow since she's started exploiting her husband's death to promote the Republican Party. Mumia is guilty as sin, but that doesn't make using her husband's death for political points excusable. More to the point, as a Senator, Fetterman would have no power over the Abu-Jamal case one way or the other.
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Empigee t1_itxhg0b wrote
My comment wasn't about her going to court. It was about her becoming a mouthpiece for Republican politicians. And let's be real: if her husband hadn't been a cop, Jamal, rightly or wrongly, would likely have gotten out a decade or two ago.
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Empigee t1_itxp8il wrote
If they promote candidates who I feel will harm our community and our country, you're damned right they lose my sympathy. Faulkner has gone beyond trying to keep Abu Jamal in prison to actively promoting candidates who favor policies that benefit the rich at the expense of the poor, destroy the environment, and interfere with women's rights, all of which I would consider more important than someone who died over forty years ago.
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Empigee t1_itxweeu wrote
If someone is selfish enough to put their interests over those of the entire community, they do not deserve sympathy. It is not a matter of simply disagreeing with me. You are deliberately misinterpreting what I'm saying because it makes it easier for you to argue against me.
1up t1_itv2ll9 wrote
Why would Krasner celebrate it if abu-jamal got a retrial? His office is actively opposing this request.
electric_ranger OP t1_itv85wi wrote
People reflexively assume “krasner good” or “krasner bad” without considering the many, many, variables.
People incorrectly assume Krasner doesn’t prosecute any crimes.
TreeMac12 t1_itxs959 wrote
"On Wednesday, Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner dropped his opposition to the appeal, opening a potential — though far from assured — avenue to freedom for Abu-Jamal, an outcome that had previously seemed impossible."
“District Attorney Larry Krasner did the right thing when he withdrew his office’s appeal in Mumia Abu-Jamal’s case,” the Amistad Law Project, a Pennsylvania-based prisoner advocacy and prison abolitionist organization, wrote in a statement. “This shows commitment to individualized justice.”
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/20/mumia-abu-jamal-larry-krasner/
and:
https://www.pacourts.us/Storage/media/pdfs/20210604/174602-file-8427.pdf
AbsentEmpire t1_itvrkz5 wrote
He was involved in this case on Mumia's behalf prior to being the DA and talked about it a lot prior to becoming the DA .
1up t1_itvv8gf wrote
That is not true though. Krasner never represented abu-jamal or worked on any of his cases when he was in private practice.
vertical_attorney t1_itwiyow wrote
Source?
electric_ranger OP t1_ituyy94 wrote
It's such a hard calculus. It also doesn't really involve Fetterman or Shapiro, but Oz will try to paint it on them anyway.
For this much I give Fetterman credit, "If Republicans “weaponize” his record and “destroy” his career over his advocacy for second chances, Mr. Fetterman added, including for the Hortons and other men he said were wrongly convicted, “then so be it.”
I think you're absolutely right, because our society has never grown past the "throw em to the lions" level of morality, but I admire about Fetterman's work on the parole board was his willingness to do the right thing regardless of the outcome for his own political ambitions. That's a vanishingly rare quality.
It just sucks so much that his principles might cost a senate seat we need to hold off the fascist takeover of our government.
AbsentEmpire t1_itv29sx wrote
Agree, its also one of the many reasons I support Fetterman and have voted for him every chance I've had, I think he's a true leader in that he thinks about what's right vs thinking about how will this impact my career.
Unfortunately because money, soundbites, and overly smooth brain team politics largely dictate how people vote; I don't think there would be any messaging that Fetterman or Shapiro could do to negate the public blow back from the court ruling for a new trial. Especially if Krasner being the narcissistic zealot he is goes on TV and praises his office loosing the appeal, which he will absolutely do.
KMerle t1_itxu4jl wrote
Jesus Christ. The Horton brothers are not innocent. They were granted clemency. Have you read the trial transcript? The evidence of their guilt was overwhelming, and their story of picking up a neighborhood friend out on a walk, oh by the way who was carrying several guns after killing one person and shooting two others during a robbery, is laughable. One of the brothers was identified by multiple witnesses as one of the TWO shooters.
They may be reformed, and them being free may be a net positive for society, but don't spread falsehoods so easily.
cerialthriller t1_itvh0f4 wrote
This isn’t even being soft on crime this is straight up supporting crime at this point
1up t1_itwlqih wrote
Abu-jamal's request for a new trial is going to be dismissed because of the DA's motion so don't know what you're on about.
cerialthriller t1_itwm379 wrote
The “if he gets a new trial” part is key reading my man
1up t1_itwnaf8 wrote
I just assumed you knew what "at this point" means since you wrote it.
cerialthriller t1_itwucr9 wrote
Yes if it goes to trial.. you’re just trying to be pedantic after realizing you didn’t read..
1up t1_itwxhm8 wrote
I suggest you go back and reread but whatever.
cerialthriller t1_itwudfj wrote
Yes if it goes to trial.. you’re just trying to be pedantic after realizing you didn’t read..
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