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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_jcuav8h wrote

Reply to comment by Allemaengel in Police: 4 people shot across from Temple University football field by deep_blue003v

Recreating UC in NP.

Otherwise TU might have to get creative.

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MonkeyPanls t1_jcumk4a wrote

You mean TempleTown? Peter Liacouras couldn't do it.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_jcup731 wrote

Yeah. I think it’s time for that to happen. There was a different dynamic then.

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FrankGrimesApartment t1_jcv1knu wrote

Probably easier to just move Temple U somewhere else.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_jcv26k9 wrote

They threatened to move to Ambler a few years back, but the city doubled down on helping them. Now they’ve all but pulled back and turned their backs on the school. Maybe it’s time to start working on that move.

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go_berds t1_jcui0en wrote

What’s UC?

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_jcukqhh wrote

University City

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[deleted] t1_jcusvxk wrote

How long did it take Penn to improve West Philly? I lived with a landlord that bought his house on the corner of 44th and Larchwood in the 80’s and said the neighborhood struggled at that time.

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neurosci_student t1_jcv02kp wrote

Yup the 80s-90s was about the worst of it. Starting with the Sansom Common development in the 90s replacing the "dead zone" parking lots north of campus and then further development on the west side of campus in the early 00s things got better.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_jcv0ncb wrote

And not a chance either of those schools allow it to return. Too much rides on it, just as Temple is finding out now.

Hopefully we don’t lose our memories of the mid-10s and how the neighborhood was before too long.

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neurosci_student t1_jcv3oa0 wrote

Penn has cash - the endowment is like 20 billion. Temple doesn't, it's a state university. Penn will keep University City gleaming even if the city falls apart because they are the landlord for most of the area which allows them to be a pseudo-municipality by creating their own rules for land use. They own the property for several blocks around the university and lease it to developers that will meet their standards. This is on top of their security apparatus which is also well funded and about the same size as Temple. But you can't just police your way out of the problem - the thing that makes UCity safer is that its development and management allows Penn to operate much more like a campus than a city university.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_jcv5p6w wrote

UPenn security is probably closer to double TUs now.

Back in 2010 they were about the same size but the current admin has been pretty adept at destroying various departments within the school and the PD/security is no exception.

TUPD recently said it’s at about 65 for staffing instead of the 115 or whatever that they had 10 years ago

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Mcjibblies t1_jcwte23 wrote

Temple has the 3rd largest non-profit endowment in the greater Philly area. Over $300M in savings, over $900M in securities, $2.3B worth of assets without any donor restrictions.

When we all start to recognize that THEY are the problem, the shootings will stop.

Oh…. You didn’t know this?! You didn’t understand that in the middle of poverty was billions of dollars where, literally a few hundred thousand could fix the problem?! Higher education is marvelous in this regard. Places where their students are taught dialectical materialism but they cannot apply it their own existence.

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Allemaengel t1_jcubelc wrote

I'm thinking your second choice. Idk that the city or state are capable of or willing to undertake that heavy lift.

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