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themightychris t1_jdnxw3i wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Mayoral candidates stand in support of drag community - Philadelphia Gay News by diatriose

^ This is someone who has no idea what a drag show is outside what they've heard gossiped on conservative media

I've never seen anything more sexual at a drag show than I've seen at school talent shows and football games when I was in middle school.

What you see at a drag show is people doing silly music videos dressed as showy women. It's not just harmless but healthy for a kid to see.

Odds are there will be kids in any middle school class that start realizing they don't feel like everyone else does w/r/t their gender. Is it so bad that those kids and their peers know they can still be normal happy people and there's places for them in this world?

Kids don't learn to be attracted to the opposite sex from theater and media, they get flooded with hormones in puberty and it changes them unexpectedly. What they've seen in media and culture up to that point just determines whether they feel like they're still normal or like they're deviant/broken after that.

Kids see men dressed masculine, they see women dressed feminine, they see women dancing provocatively, they see love stories where men and women kiss and get married and start families. You don't hear any of that ever likened to pornography—it's only when those representations might help a queer kid feel like they fit into society too that it becomes inappropriate

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LoudGroans t1_jdpq0ts wrote

Excuse me, but are you kidding me? Dude, I LOVE drag shows specifically because of how raunchy and ridiculous they are. I, a straight dude, once walked into an impromptu drag show and within five minutes I was brought on stage to deep throat a fucking pretzel and twerk with a bunch of women. I volunteered for it. I did that shit with an open mind and an open throat and a genuine love of pretzels.

It was a hilariously good time and I had a blast.

If the drag shows you're going to AREN'T rowdy and ridiculous and inherently charged with latent sexual energy, you're going to the wrong drag shows, bud.

But that's my thing about this. It's so fucking weird to me that we're at a point where we're using children as the battleground. Why? Why sexualize ANYTHING for children, or politicize anything to their detriment? This is so wildly immature.

Drag shows are fun and beautiful and ridiculous, and they definitely should not be attended by children. The same way nobody under the age of 18 should be allowed in a hooters.

And far as outfits go, as a rational, normal adult, think about what drag outfits look like. If it was a cis white woman walking into a PTA meeting or coming onto a school bus as a school trip aid dressed in what your brain immediately thinks of as a typical drag outfit, you'd legit be like, "What the fuck, Jen? Go home with that shit..."

Not because Jen's not allowed to dress that way, but because these are fucking kids and you should have some common sense, you kook.

The conversation should be that simple, but we're so passed that. We're all sticking to our rigid beliefs and escalating these situations into something that makes literally no sense because we're so committed to being right about everything.

People on the left advocating for drag shows in elementary school are insane. People on the right advocating to ban LGBT events and drag shows statewide (like in TN), are insane. These are all actions, reactions, and escalations.

This consistent "fuck around and find out" loop we're all antagonistically living in has got to stop, because shit like this will KEEP HAPPENING in republican controlled states.

They'll keep saying shit like, "Oh, so you want drag performers reading to OUR CHILDREN? Okay, well, now we're going to do everything we can to make sure drag performers can't even perform in adult venues in OUR STATE."

Like, what did everyone expect was going to happen? That a bunch of weirdo republicans would take that sitting down?

It's like poking a bear with a stick and then complaining when the bear rips your guts out. Be smarter, more tactful, and more strategic. Especially in places where you're behind enemy lines LIKE THE FUCKING BIBLE BELT.

I am beyond frustrated here.

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Tall-Ad5755 t1_jdu2u90 wrote

That’s exactly my point. Why would you want to even do it? Like, what’s the point.

I’m perfectly fine with a form of entertainment being for adults; keep it in its lane.

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