Submitted by andrewbt t3_11zj6se in philadelphia
roobinsteen t1_jdcwzy4 wrote
Reply to comment by Bartleby_TheScrivene in Rowhouse bathroom addition contractor recommendations? by andrewbt
50k is not unreasonable at all for carving out an entirely new master bathroom in a preexisting finished space with tub and shower and nice finishes. It involves every single trade short of roofing, basically.
zillabunnny t1_jddbtrs wrote
Actually, unless the planned bathroom space already has a window they might need to involve a roofer because a bathroom with shower requires an exhaust. Sooooo, roofing, electrical/plumbing/hvac and the permits and inspections process, drywall, carpentry, tiling and glazing, project mgmt etc and all done in a timely manner -- 50k is not bad. It may only be realistically 30k of materials and labor but the builder isn't working for free.
You also have to consider the level of finish the homeowner wants. A double vanity can be $300 from Ikea or $3000 from room and board. Tile can vary from less than a dollar for subway to $20sq ft for zellige.
A DIY kitchen for 9k doesn't really compare because no one is trying to make a profit and you're likely only making minor adjustments to existing mechanicals.
Edit: the plumbing stack will surely also need to be vented closer to this new location right? more roofwork?
andrewbt OP t1_jde8rd9 wrote
We do have an existing window in the space. The vent stack is right on the other side of the same exterior wall
Bartleby_TheScrivene t1_jdcx7rp wrote
It just surprises me is all. That's almost a quarter of my entire house just for one bathroom.
roobinsteen t1_jdcxgm7 wrote
I hear you, the costs for major projects like kitchens and bathrooms are surprising to many homeowners. It's less surprising once you realize how complex these projects are, especially in remodel situations, as well as the staggering cost of the materials involved. Contractors aren't getting rich off of these, generally.
Bartleby_TheScrivene t1_jdcxpu3 wrote
I didn't think my kitchen was all that complex, but I did have to rebuild basically everything, including new framing because the old framing was done completely wrong. I had joists sitting on raw brick and no sill plate.
andrewbt OP t1_jde8o47 wrote
Thank you. Indeed I have been educated as I understand the scope and magnitude of what we want to do! Part of why I’m looking for a one stop shop.
I also need a good roofer (this dumb house) but that’s unrelated. I saw some recommendations for the Roof Doctor on this Reddit and they are looking nice
roobinsteen t1_jde8zaf wrote
Just sent you a chat request
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