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IPA_lot_ t1_jeb40li wrote

Someone shot in the head and that’s horrible.

But why the fuck are people who are months behind on rent suddenly victims?

Edit - they didn’t die.

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mennobyte t1_jebb38p wrote

I think it's the fact they died that makes them the victim because generally death isn't the punishment for having debt

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IPA_lot_ t1_jebbfa3 wrote

Wow reading comprehension is hard.

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mennobyte t1_jebbjqp wrote

I know it is. You'll get there though!

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minze t1_jeceglp wrote

not the person you were replying to but I think their comment was because the woman didn't die. She was taken in to the hospital in critical condition and (from another article) is now in stable condition.

>I think it's the fact they died that makes them the victim because generally death isn't the punishment for having debt

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BFreeFranklin t1_jebaw4o wrote

Being a deadbeat (to take your stance for granted) isn’t a capital offense. Even if the shooting turns out to be justified, it won’t be because the woman wasn’t paying rent.

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IPA_lot_ t1_jebbdo5 wrote

Where the hell am I saying it’s ok to kill people for not paying rent?

All I’m saying is that now people who don’t pay rent are suddenly victims, even without being shot. People who are fully capable of working and paying bills ducking them because of whatever reason, are victims because “landlord bad.” Why is this a thing? Too many people want free shit.

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memettetalks t1_jebdiaw wrote

I just think you're not understanding how completely our social systems fail people in poverty.

We know that people are sometimes unable to make ends meet and instead of investing in a social safety net, we address the issue with armed agents and criminalizing being poor.

This article gives an overview of how not having resources is a brutal cycle of hopelessness in many areas of society. https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiegermano/2020/08/04/how-the-united-states-has-criminalized-poverty-and-how-to-change-that-now/?sh=7023d8693281

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IPA_lot_ t1_jebk2yn wrote

Don’t rent houses you can’t afford

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memettetalks t1_jebp8t6 wrote

I know that, because I have had access to quality education and financial advice. Not everyone has those privileges.

This is a douchy response.

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IPA_lot_ t1_jebtca4 wrote

It’s a common sense response but ok.

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memettetalks t1_jebcsmn wrote

You seem out of touch with how poverty effects people, but either way the moral argument is very simple here:

Nobody deserves to have mercenaries sent to their residence for trying to keep a roof over their head and failing.

A society that permits hiring mercenaries with no oversight to forcibly remove people from homes is a morally corrupt society.

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King_Arber t1_jee9ixr wrote

There are other form of housing that are supplied to those people.

This person chose not to pay rent, had their day in court, lost, then the court permitted sending those people to force them out of the house. This person has plenty of opportunity to do the correct thing.

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