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NonIdentifiableUser t1_je77ae3 wrote

Maybe now she can issue a directive that her officers actually enforce traffic laws.

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aintjoan t1_je78yl9 wrote

And also don't violate them blatantly themselves for no reason. (Neither of these will ever happen)

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craftyangie t1_je7c86j wrote

Yeah, I don’t know if they have the patience to wait 30 seconds for the light to turn. It seems almost mandatory for them to turn their lights on whenever they encounter a red (Only to turn them off right after crossing)!

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atheken t1_jealhga wrote

The thing that makes me crazy about this is.. where are they in a hurry to go? They're literally just patrolling most of the time. I sorta get why someone wants to run reds and not wait, but seriously, if PPD are just blatant scofflaws, not sure why we expect better from anyone else.

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RoverTheMonster t1_je7jkwx wrote

Weirdly rooting for her to come away from this thinking “damn, that wouldn’t have happened to me if my police force actually did something once in a while”

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sexy_wash_bucket t1_je76wlm wrote

I am not exaggerating there must have been 40+ cop cars. Took 15 mins to drive three blocks on my drive home. All for a fender bender. Stupid.

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throwawaitnine t1_je782qr wrote

Meanwhile, if it was you, you'd be lucky if someone answers by the fifth ring.

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RJ5R t1_je7kkb1 wrote

Yeah no kidding. And if by some miracle you reach someone and they say they are on their way you're lucky if they get there within 3 hrs. Someone hit and run damaged a family members car parked on street. Dispatch asked was anyone injured. He said no. They said so what does he want them to do for him. Lol.

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Lemonbrick_64 t1_je8cwh0 wrote

Is that actually true or are you exaggerating from an experience you heard? Have you actually waited more than a half hour for police recently?

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B-BoyStance t1_je8m7y3 wrote

Buddy look at my comment below. I hit a guy, and a bunch of people passing by thought he was dead. For literally 20 minutes a dude was laying on the street at 17th and Market and a bunch of passerby thought I killed him. 911 answered no one.

Cops happened to roll by, and they acted like it was a fucking nuisance.

I will believe the most outlandish anecdotal stories about the cops in this city. They are fucking awful at their jobs and a large percentage of them are lazy assholes. Many of them are even vindictive because people told them they suck at their jobs (which they do - and they should feel bad until they don't)

You call the cops in any other neighborhood and it's even worse response times. Let alone the neighborhoods you would never find yourself in.

Edit: not to mention people were calling the cops on this dude before he ran into me. He was doing it for the whole day according to the witness that stuck around for me. Absolutely insane that shit happens for an extended amount of time anywhere in the city, let alone one of its most trafficked areas.

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Lemonbrick_64 t1_je9js2l wrote

I see. I didn’t read the full context. That is horrifically insane

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RJ5R t1_je8fk0y wrote

he was literally arguing with the dispatcher to send an officer to file a report. she finally agreed, reluctantly, and with such attitude too

he waited a half hour, and went back into his apartment building

over 3 hrs later he got a call officer was outside ready to look at the damaged car

this was 2021

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B-BoyStance t1_je7r74u wrote

Bro I literally had a guy run into my car on Market (fraud), and he was laying in the street for like 20 minutes.

911 wouldn't answer. People freaking the fuck out at me thinking I killed a guy.

Cops show up 20 minutes later, tell me they don't have time for this, and when a very nice witness came over to tell them the dude was running in traffic for a while, they finally decided to call him an ambulance as a way to get him to leave.

This story pisses me off.

Edit: And if the very nice employee/owner of the restaurant that provided video to me or the woman who stood by with me for 30 minutes is reading this - you have no idea how thankful I am for you. Thank you. I think the only reason I got through that is because I was so damn mad at the guy, and aware of what he did/the fact I caught it in time to stop. I was able to keep it together just long enough. If you guys didn't come out to help I probably would have gotten arrested.

Edit 2: And also sued

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babywithahugedick t1_je84erk wrote

Yeah this story is actually genuinely infuriating. Who the fuck cares if Danielle Outlaw got in a fender bender? Her life is worth more than mine because of her job, which she isn't even good at?

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coxie0520 t1_je7ttlv wrote

It’s unfortunate nobody could 302 this guy for continually jumping into traffic.

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lissssxo t1_je8gmu4 wrote

That would be a miracle in this damn city. I had a man call my phone at 2am saying he was going to end his life. I’m a previous 911 dispatcher and I kept him on the phone for 3 hours. Text to 911, they disconnected on me twice saying “just tell him to call the suicide hotline.” Never sent me an officer to my house. I drove to 3 different districts and ultimately ended up at the mans house, which was miraculously 20 minutes away from mine, that I found his address and provided to PD to do a wellness check, and told the sergeant “I’m not leaving until you help him.” They took him immediately when they realized I was the one on the phone and if they didn’t take him, I was going to.

This city is a joke when it comes to mental health.

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thereisnodevil666 t1_je9eqmg wrote

It's a joke when it comes to police doing fucking anything, other than getting paid a salary to do real estate on the side, or getting reinstated after violently assaulting citizens due to FOP pressure. I've never heard a story of pigs happily helping someone who asked for it, even when they presented evidence.

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FistfulOPubes t1_je8i18q wrote

That’s such a frustrating story. You’re a good person.

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lissssxo t1_je8i7ci wrote

Thank you. Frustrating isn’t the word, I didn’t get home until 630am that day. He’s the only person I ever got to meet after 3 years of both helping and losing people over the phone. In a weird way, I think it was some type of closure. I hope he’s doing well now.

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futurelullabies t1_jea2be5 wrote

you could be bleeding out and philly PD will tell you they dont have time for you and then go get donuts and fuck off in their cars to scroll on facebook.

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sidewaysorange t1_jeck5p1 wrote

got t-boned when i was pregnant. dude ran a stop sign. called cops... they told me unless i needed an ambulance i was on my own. cop drove past my car just sitting in the intersection. can't make this shit up.

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DonovanMcLoughlin t1_je7calg wrote

Whenever I ever feel useless I remind myself that Philadelphia has an actual police commissioner.

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Unable-Project-9545 t1_je7gmtm wrote

About as useful as the guy who installs Dodge Charger turn signals

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Arkhikernc t1_je74qyg wrote

The news helicopters hovered over the area for longer than an hour. The noise is so annoying. Why don't they just use drones now?

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jpop237 t1_je7b1js wrote

Or, you know, we don't need an hour of car crash footage. Or any amount of time, really.

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PhillyAccount t1_je7cjd9 wrote

How else would the smug suburbanites get their daily dose of Philadelphia drama

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PhillyPanda t1_je7d44j wrote

I love how city news decisions are blamed on the suburbs

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OHIO_TERRORIST t1_je7dpbh wrote

It’s almost like a lot of people live in the Philly area besides just Philly itself 😮

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PhillyPanda t1_je7f0yf wrote

They don’t sit around taking hours of extra footage specifically for the suburbs. It’s news. The city gets the same shit. They’d still be there without the suburbs.

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ImpendingSenseOfDoom t1_je7f86q wrote

I think the point they were making is that the news feeds into the suburban viewers' mentality that the city is dangerous and chaotic, so the footage of this crash is for them.

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PhillyPanda t1_je7fhn1 wrote

It’s the same news. It’s what happened today that’s interesting in the area. It’d still be reported on

The commissioner got into a car accident. That’s news. City or suburbs. Media video footage is a part of news.

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ImpendingSenseOfDoom t1_je7ihfb wrote

You realize the news chooses what content to cover based on what will get the highest ratings, right? It's not some altruistic entity of truth and equality.

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PhillyPanda t1_je7iml6 wrote

You realize the news is going to cover major news of high ranking city officials that gets attention in both cities and suburbs?

I guess the alternative would be the city is largely uneducated vs suburbs and doesn’t care about the news? As someone who does live in the city, I’m happy for the suburban folk allowing me as a city resident to hear about the city news.

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_je8mkyn wrote

Yeah but the news stations know the suburbanites don’t wanna hear a daily dose of crime near them. They know the suburbanites wanna hear about the crime in the city proper. It helps them feel good about living outside the city. Benefiting from working or being in proximity to the city.. But being able to stay far enough to not have to care about the needs of the city.

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billontheinternet t1_jeac6kx wrote

Very defensive for someone whose not at fault from the suburbs 🤔

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PhillyPanda t1_jeb1is3 wrote

I live in rittenhouse. I just understand that it’s not the residents of Lower Merion’s fault or wherever’s fault when a helicopter circles my neighborhood

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PhillyPanda t1_je7f79a wrote

Acting like the city news helicopters are only there bc of the surrounding area is obtuse.

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PhillyAccount t1_je7e6c6 wrote

The Philly Metro media market is overwhelmingly suburban and stretches from Allentown to Dover.

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_je8mcgs wrote

Mad crime happens in the burbs and jersey townships but never leads or even gets reported. City always gets the shit report.

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Trafficsigntruther t1_je7i58u wrote

> Why don't they just use drones now?

Because the FAA makes it hard to get a license to operate a drone beyond line of sight.

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Carlfest t1_je7opkn wrote

So put a drone pilot on the GD roof... I also don't understand why putting people and all of that weight in the sky is preferable to a smaller, safer, more economically energy-efficient drone.

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Civil_Peak t1_je8by1y wrote

because there too many people trying to scare everyone about how dangerous drones are. I remember there was some protest and I think this was before FAA started putting rules in place, someone put a drone up to watch what everyone was doing. People started freaking out and cops followed the drone back and arrested the drone operator. Over nothing.

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Darius_Banner t1_je7oukr wrote

Are you suggesting that they save money and… and… pay journalists? Horrible!

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Jabroni_Guy t1_je8tis5 wrote

No, haha helicopter goes brrrrrr like the money printer

Might be a fire rap line depending on how slant you rhyme

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jpop237 t1_je7bby3 wrote

>Police say the 42-year-old male Uber driver ran a red light and struck Outlaw's vehicle.

What does the Uber driver say?

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zipzipzap256 t1_je7ki71 wrote

Weird whenever anyone else gets into an accident in Philly the cops tell them they aren’t responding and to just exchange information.

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wild_lettuce_ t1_je9adv9 wrote

I’ve had arguments with my insurance company over this, because I didn’t have a police report after an accident and they “can’t believe that police don’t respond to accidents”. Umm, im in Philly. I’m lucky if I can get someone to answer when I call 911, let alone come out to the scene of an accident.

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zipzipzap256 t1_je9c45w wrote

I work in auto claims in Philly. Know this all too well.

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wild_lettuce_ t1_je9ki0k wrote

That has to be rough ! Like I’d gladly get a police report if 911 answered & the cops would show up in less than 3+ hours, but sadly that’s not the case. No one has time for the bullshit involved in getting Philly police to respond to a fender bender.

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TheBSQ t1_jeak924 wrote

I’ve dealt with that too. its really weird to explain just how dysfunctional this city is to people who live in places where basic societal functions happen without issue.

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TrentonMakes t1_je755lx wrote

She has her own driver?!? Cops are talking about a shortage of personnel but have useless positions like a chauffeur.

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Level-Adventurous t1_je77bh2 wrote

You should read Rebecca Rynhart’s audit of the police department, there’s a lot of that going on

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XSC t1_je77tnl wrote

That’s usually standard, commissioner is always on the phone and making appearances. Don’t want to be texting and driving and be involved in an accident oh wait….There’s a long list of useless positions/overtime abuse and I wouldn’t put this at the top. Now the question is how much is that driver making where it becomes absurd.

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Full_Artichoke_8583 t1_je7agt2 wrote

Not saying Outlaw doesn’t need assistants, just that they don’t need to be trained officers.

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APettyJ t1_je7fo05 wrote

Eh, is the president's chauffeur secret service? I'd be surprised if they didn't have training, same with a police commissioner or higher up like a mayor. If it goes down, going to want all the personnel there able to defend the VIP.

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ModeratingInfluence t1_je7pcrq wrote

Does the police commissioner of Philadelphia require the same level of support as the president?

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APettyJ t1_je7q29m wrote

No, which is why she doesn't get a whole caravan accompanying her. However, it doesn't appear like she even gets a police escort; it's just her and her driver. I'm not surprised that the driver is a trained officer and not a regular chauffeur, as he may also double as protection.

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OHIO_TERRORIST t1_je7dy4r wrote

Literally all major cities have drivers for high positions like DA, Mayor, and Commissioner. This isn’t something uncommon.

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Kodiak_85 t1_je7gzfu wrote

It’s standard for every major metropolitan city. NY, Philly, Chicago, LA etc. All City executive leadership have chauffeurs and/or a police protective detail.

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CommunicationTime265 t1_je82z1r wrote

Yup. High ranking police and other government officials always have drivers. It's fucked up.

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i-bleed-red t1_je754w9 wrote

I have long COVID brain fog so that’s my excuse for not putting this together sooner.

We have a police commissioner named Outlaw? That seems—— ironic.

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PhillyPanda t1_je7h8is wrote

Outlaw became commissioner before Covid so its prob not that

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i-bleed-red t1_je7uj3v wrote

Meaning I can’t blame my long COVID I guess. So I’ll just blame my advancing age.

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lvlufasa t1_je7c8mz wrote

I know there are so so many people who ignore traffic laws right now so something like this is bound to happen. But on like the scale of best and worst person's car to hit in the city while running a red light, this has to be pretty high up there.

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alltheamendments t1_je74jdk wrote

No doubt the injuries will prevent her from coming back to work, fortunately she will continue to get full pay.

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rossdowdell t1_je6yr5n wrote

It would be funny if the Uber was driving Cherelle Parker home from Happy Hour.

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trashtrucktoot t1_je7wqfj wrote

I love Philly and all, but I wish we had some enforcement. It's farking scary driving in this city.

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throwawaitnine t1_je7fc1w wrote

>Police say the 42-year-old male Uber driver ran a red light and struck Outlaw's vehicle.

Ok, now look at the pictures, who struck who?

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PhillyPanda t1_je7igr2 wrote

They struck each other. But the one car is well past the cross walk so if they didn’t have the right of way and had a red light, the police car turning would expect them to be stopped

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SBRH33 t1_je7j3ju wrote

The commish going out on Heart And Lung.

Lol.

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TDbank t1_je7os9d wrote

I wonder if she had to call 911 hahahahaahahahaha

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King_Arber t1_jeb3wob wrote

And they probably didn’t pick up like what’s happened some of the times I’ve called.

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Capkirk0923 t1_je9vetc wrote

Miracle of miracles- I actually saw police stop an aggressive driver on Cottman ave. this morning. I had to do a double take because I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.

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TJ_McWeaksauce t1_je9gzuf wrote

Somewhere there's an outlaw named Jerry Commissioner.

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LDUBSKE t1_jeb3jdp wrote

Is it just me or does anyone else think she looks like DontCallMeWhiteGirl ?!

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justanawkwardguy t1_je9suc3 wrote

Looks to me like Outlaw's car actually hit the Uber not the other way around, granted it's because the Uber ran the light

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scotty269 t1_je7g2df wrote

Can we blame her for reckless driving and endangering others, and then wait until the dashcam is released showing she was innocent? Asking for a friend.

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starchild812 t1_je85d1l wrote

  1. The article, which is six sentences long, says no. General advice, if you see a headline and have questions about what happened, try reading the article!
  2. Why does it matter that you're male?
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