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dirtymatt t1_jdd4nzy wrote

Reply to comment by rndljfry in SEPTA hopes new vertical gates will deter turnstile jumpers by APettyJ

There's no way the number of fare jumps is that low. I see multiple on a daily basis, and it's not like I'm camping out there watching. This is just what I observe in the few seconds I'm near the turnstiles.

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rndljfry t1_jdd69vm wrote

Of course it's under-reported, but people are also seriously overestimating how their personal experience relates to the whole picture.

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dirtymatt t1_jddgset wrote

Let's just assume I'm right and that I see 2 fare jumpers per day. That's 10 a week, or about 520 per year. That's more than a sixth of the quoted number that one person is witnessing at one station in a small window of time. Admittedly, I'm primarily travelling during rush hour when there are more people travelling, and probably more fare jumps are happening during that time, but I just don't see any possible way the quoted number is close to accurate. It wouldn't shock me at all if the real number was 100x higher.

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