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Away_Swimming_5757 t1_jd4xsby wrote

Reply to comment by Thot_P0cket in Philly Is Bringing Back Street Sweeping: You Will Need to Move Cars in These Places by youngbuck215

It's not rocket science, but its also operationally intense. You can't just copy and paste other cities approaches because we have a completely different operating model.

They're doing this in limited scope because there will likely be many unforeseen situations that will need to be addressed. They will analyze and react to the unforeseen stuff which will give them a more realistic view of the painpoints of the actual sweeping and the operational painpoints of capacity planning for this appropriately. They will also need to likely hire and reassign different teams to support this so understanding which roles and accountability decisions will need to be made.

Once they have muscle memory built up and find a good balance of operational finesse, they can consider expanding it to be more wide reaching.

Large programs, even when the task at hand is not complex, become inherently complex once its added into a larger function (aka city government/ municipal services). This is a widely studied aspect of program management and should not be underestimated.

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erdtirdmans t1_jd55tgg wrote

We literally used to do this. The city layout hasn't changed much at all. Roll out the old plans

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oramirite t1_jd5evnd wrote

"roll out the old plans" is pretty clearly an oversimplification of what it takes to run an infrastructure service in a major city. It's not simple.

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felldestroyed t1_jd57wp2 wrote

And tow/ticket a whole bunch of poor people's cars so they can't show up to work? It's easy to say "tough shit" online, but a whole lot more goes into public administration than that.

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GruffEnglishGentlman t1_jd5b97t wrote

Then move the damn car. This isn’t rocket science and it’s not oppressive.

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oramirite t1_jd5f5wm wrote

Stop claiming something has to be rocket science in order to be semi-comllicated and operationally intense.

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felldestroyed t1_jd5e127 wrote

Lol, yup, just as easy as that. No one will be harmed! It's not rocket science, it's common sense yall! Until your entire district is lighting up your switchboards wondering why noone informed them and why the hell we even need street cleaning - it was fine to your constituents before now. And the retiree really hates that you towed her car and she knows how she will get back at you: a primary.
You act like this isn't something that hasn't been studied for around 150 years. That the first Roosevelt didn't struggle implementing - that every single politician and city manager implements. There are doctorates in this and they still can't solve it. And fortunately for these neighborhoods: they won't just be railroaded any longer, like they were for at least 3 generations with highways, railways, and shitty gentrification.

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erdtirdmans t1_jd6eut0 wrote

Oh, well, poor people might be affected by our attempts to improve the city. Might as well just let it degrade to shit. That way all the poor people who can't move out of it can enjoy what's left of it knowing that we were really nice to them when we doomed them to hell

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