Scumandvillany t1_jahirie wrote
Reply to comment by Scumandvillany in Philly mayoral candidates are discussing gun violence tonight. Here are some key policies likely to come up by PhillyPanda
My copypasta because people are DMing me "what is mandatory 4K"
It stems from the idea that objectivity in law enforcement is important these days. With the police being proven to be problematic in enforcement, from stop and frisk, to vehicle stops, the point is to move to an objective way to get where we want, which is safer streets, better traffic enforcement, and actually catching murderers and violent people.
The city should put up a network of a few thousand cameras. Minimum. The police already have 500 or so, and those should all be upgraded to MANDATORY 4K, while also adding to the network. This would enable real time tracking of suspects and much better intelligence for the cops to solve murders. Think about it, a few thousand shooters are simply walking about, free to roam. Murderers some, hyper violent all. Give the tools to prosecute more effectively, and redirect police to crime solving and simple patrol and responding to 911 calls by expanding the detective unit.
Civil liberties can be preserved by having a MANDATORY obligation to delete any footage not involved in a crime after a set period, like three weeks or so. Have a civil commission in charge of the release and use of the footage, with regular citizens on the board. Only be able to use the footage in specific crimes-violent ones.
At 10 thou a camera(and that's a lot), 20 million dollars rolls out two thousand cameras, all super high def for zooming etc. add in 5 million a year for enterprise cloud storage(leveraged by the bully pulpit and the city's franchise powers), and viola. we spent 150 million in the last budget for violence prevention, which indeterminate results.
Once you start actually locking murderers and shooters up em masse, the violent crimes will go down. It's not a huge swath of people who commit such crimes, it's a few thousands out of 1.6 million. Eventually you lock all the degenerates up and others will get the idea to not fuck around.
I'm not saying this idea is Christ come again, but it's a very simple idea and largely irrefutable. The fact is we are entering a new era of policing and we must find new ways to solve violent crime and enforce the law.
At the same time we can do violence prevention, jobs programs and jail reforms to help ex cons gain a true foothold after they leave a long sentence, while also reducing the amount of people going in for petty drug crimes etc. of course we need to look at the economic reasons as well, and focus on bettering our educational systems and creating opportunities for people to succeed at the same time as MANDATORY 4K. We also need to address blight, clean and green spaces, clean all streets of trash and debris, be very quick about illegal dumping, and help low income people repair their houses and get their titles sorted out. But MANDATORY 4K is about now.
It's just something I've been floating around here for awhile now. I refine it from time to time. And I agree with you about the systemic issues, and think those things I mentioned above are part of the solution generationally, but I disagree that solving 90% of violent crimes won't drastically reduce the incidence of it. I think people are a bit smarter than we give them credit for, and when people who may be prone to this stuff, on the borderline, they might start thinking twice if the certainty of them getting caught and doing 20 years is might higher. They might choose a different path. And in any case I think there's not an endless well of shooters and hyper violent people on street beef shit. Eventually it will wane.
apathetic_panda t1_jahpn2k wrote
Or they could figure out how to open a Microsoft browser and do the following:
- Click on map
- Open traffic camera 📷 😑
We don't need to get into whether their forensic "experts" try to reconstruct partial fingerprints or use >60 y/o color tests when they try to secure convictions -the outcomes speak for themselves
I'm aware OP's statement is likely in reference to local roadways as opposed to state which have SD resolution? I dunno ask 🤷 one of the TV people, but not wpvi...
My point is that even given better tools 🔧 🙃 😅, the institution insists on more compensation for being both inept & abusive. FOH!
ragnaROCKER t1_jan3y0d wrote
It seems a good idea, but I am VERY hesitant to give that kind of power to a group that repeatedly shows they take advantage of the power they have NOW.
[deleted] t1_jai3x2i wrote
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