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SnapCrackleMom t1_j8u84bq wrote

Aaaand they're from Delco. I think one of them is the son of an Upper Darby town councilperson.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8u8bts wrote

yeah it's always the kids from the burbs not knowing how to act here- and then they're the first ones to talk shit about how terrible philadelphia is

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shapu t1_j8wl0nx wrote

Of course Philadelphia is shit. They come here.

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AutisticOcelot t1_j8u9cds wrote

Upper Darby Councilperson you say? I motion to declare a writ of boys-will-be-boys.

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SomePaddy t1_j8ukd8q wrote

I move to add an amendment stating that "he has his whole life ahead of him".

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go_berds t1_j8uccap wrote

Out of the 9 or so that they’re looking for, I would guess at least 7 are from Delco or north east Philly

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8uj1no wrote

I'd agree with northeast Philly IF folks from northeast Philly ever wanted to leave the northeast

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go_berds t1_j8uj6o1 wrote

Your be surprised. My neighbors at temple were from Mayfair and bridesburg. You have no idea how many twisted tea cans I cleaned out of my backyard

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ujt91 wrote

ah man, it's the twisted teas that gives them away. I guess Temple is the furthest "into the city" the NE folks will go. Most of my family is in the NE and when you so much as mention dinner in the city, they act like you suggested Manhattan

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InsiDS t1_j8vao3c wrote

Hah that's true. I'm not a fan of going south past Cottman ave.

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Cman1200 t1_j8wu99k wrote

Nah NEDs love coming down to colleges and starting fights at parties then fucking off back to the northeast

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NoobOnTheRun t1_j8weddp wrote

I grew up in North / Northeast Philly and now live in Delco. some parts of Delco makes me feel like I never actually left Northeast Philly

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anonymous_lighting t1_j8ueai8 wrote

not surprising honestly. i don’t think many people living in philly with young kids put them through school, high school, and college there. probably way more teens young twenties in immediate suburbs than city and a lot commute to city for big events

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KFCConspiracy t1_j8wrdvn wrote

Everyone called that one before this info came out... Of course they're from fucking delco coming to Philly to destroy shit.

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courageous_liquid t1_j8wwa1o wrote

You know I nailed that shit on nfceastmemewar as soon as some clown posted it over there

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Lunamothknits t1_j8udrwh wrote

Last time I mentioned that it’s always county kids, I was told it didn’t matter. 😭

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GooFoYouPal t1_j8u91hx wrote

Should have to buy victim replacement car, just as good or better, and have to do 200 hours of actual, monitored community service in immediate area of Temple. Cleaning, greening, etc.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8u9c4b wrote

I think everyone's punishment should be community service of cleaning up this city on top of whatever else they're given

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crispydukes t1_j8wc4i1 wrote

Call me a scaredy-cat, but in today's retribution culture, I'm not sure I want people who have been involved in violence in a public situation like that. We've had too many killings right after people are released from prison.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8x2co0 wrote

I hear ya. But some of these people don't have any idea where they're going ahead if time for their community service if they're coming right from jail. My aunt lives in jersey on the river and twice a year, guys in their orange jumpsuits come to clear out lots of old wood and trash along the river. They're chaperoned by a bunch o gun carrying cops and I've been there when they're over there doing it. They get a gorgeous day outside and they look at the water and they clean up the area. They're usually there for 10 hours. They get breaks. They do a gorgeous job, and they're very kind if folks walk by and greet them. I'm of the mindset that yes, there are some people out there who are not in any way fit for society for whatever reason, but I also know that *some* violent offenders could have just fucked up badly due to circumstance. I believe a lot can come from rehabilitating people.

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AlVic40117560_ t1_j8uamb7 wrote

I’m personally not a big fan of slavery, even as punishment for a crime.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ub286 wrote

cleaning up the mess you made isn't slavery (and tossing around the word "slavery" to describe normal tasks really minimizes how horrific slavery was/is)

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AlVic40117560_ t1_j8ubxf1 wrote

What would you call forcing people to perform labor? Just because it’s not as bad as it was in the past, doesn’t mean there are still improvements to be made. I totally agree that they should have to pay damages, but doing 200 hours of community service? Or what? They get put in jail? Call it what you want, but it certainly doesn’t sound like not slavery.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ud0kj wrote

>but doing 200 hours of community service? Or what? They get put in jail?

YES. You don't go trashing a city, flipping cars that people use their hard earned money to buy so that they can go to work and school, destroying the streets with trash, piss, shit, and vomit, beer cans, bottles, etc... and just get yelled at by a judge and fined. You make people regret what they did by having them CLEAN UP THEIR MESS OR GO TO JAIL. If they don't like it, then they should not have done it.

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pineapple-pumpkin t1_j8uuo6s wrote

Yup. I got a stupid underage drinking charge the day before my 21st birthday. I had a choice to do community service or a harsher punishment. I chose community service in the college town. That is much different from "chain gangs" that are forced labor for inmates.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8vb95m wrote

If I ever found myself in that position and given the choice, I would pick up trash along a highway before I sat in a jail

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bierdimpfe t1_j8uiotr wrote

>What would you call forcing people to perform labor?

In this context? I call it partial restitution

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PhillyPanda t1_j8v1i4i wrote

You’re not usually forcing people to perform labor. It’s usually you choose to perform community service in lieu of a jail sentence. If you don’t fulfill the conditions of your deal, you serve your sentence. If you don’t actively choose community service, you serve a sentence.

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GooFoYouPal t1_j8ucc6u wrote

Yeah, neither is anyone here in this thread. Soo, back to what were we saying about community service…

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Vexithan t1_j8unq65 wrote

Helping to clean up the city you fucked up by being a dumb asshole seems like a pretty appropriate way to start getting at restorative justice. It’s a way to make reparations for your shitheadedness.

I had to do community service as a kid one time when I did dumb shit. I had to do it at the police garage which was a waste of time because I just learned to dislike the cops more. But if I had to do something in the park I vandalized I guarantee you I’d have a better appreciation for the park.

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Hungree_Gh0st t1_j8ulmsy wrote

In this context, wouldn’t this be a form of restorative justice? Adding value to a community that one had previously diminished?

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Electr_O_Purist t1_j8x0e1j wrote

C’mon, don’t be obtuse. A few hours of community service isn’t slavery. Their payment is not having to go to jail for the crime they committed.

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AlVic40117560_ t1_j8x1o81 wrote

Obtuse. I like that one. Might have to steal that going forward.

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TheTwoOneFive t1_j8v9tsh wrote

Usually community service is fairly lenient in where it is done, usually as long as you have a letter from a Philly nonprofit (or one outside the city stating the CS was done in the city) City how many hours you worked for community service, you're good to go.

I think it's a great alternative to jail for non-violent crimes and is usually a win-win because oftentimes the person performing it chooses something they at least don't hate and there's a decent chance that they will voluntarily get involved in more of it in the future.

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jaimiedeth t1_j8ubr3s wrote

Temple students started a go fundme for the owner (a disabled vet and Temple alumni) that was up to 13k as of this morning . I believe they were planning on giving him the funds by the end of this week.

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Phl_worldwide t1_j8ucefd wrote

They did: https://www.phillyvoice.com/north-philly-car-flipped-eagles-investigation-super-bowl-gofundme/amp/

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rootoo t1_j8uj8un wrote

This will never make r/PublicFreakout and the people that saw the original footage and talked shit about philly being a lawless hellscape full of braindead assholes will go on not knowing that justice was served.

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PhillyPanda t1_j8uqf3f wrote

Most things posted in publicfreakout have no follow up but everyone thinks it’s funny bc they’re from Florida…

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enn_sixty_four t1_j8ul7n5 wrote

What about the people that thought it was cool because the eagles were winning 🤔 did they change their tune yet

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BasileusLeoIII t1_j8uwldv wrote

i don't think that's the car that got flipped

I'm sure his car was also damaged by this crowd, but the roof and sunroof are pristine in that pic, he's just missing mirrors and has a cracked windshield

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IcedCoffeeIsBetter t1_j8x85mp wrote

Yeah the actual original owner of the car in the viral video kind of got fleeced on this one unless there is another gofundme.... this guys car has maybe a couple grand at most in damage and the other is totaled.

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BasileusLeoIII t1_j8x8fqr wrote

insurance is covering both cars either way, but good on this guy for getting $18k out of a cracked windshield. Hope he makes it last

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IcedCoffeeIsBetter t1_j8x8nv8 wrote

Insurance is covering AFTER the owner pays their deductible and potentially rental car fees, etc. just because they have insurance isn't a win for them.

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SnapCrackleMom t1_j8u9pc4 wrote

You know what's wild? So many kids at Temple do community service/volunteering just because it's a good thing to do. And then there's these jackoffs.

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irockunow t1_j8ua9li wrote

it's very possible the car owners insurance company subrogates (sues) these guys for restitution for vandalism.

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rovinchick t1_j8uzd1q wrote

The court will most likely enter a restitution order for the damages that they will have to pay. Their wages/tax refunds/etc can be garnished if they fail to keep up payments.

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Vague_Disclosure t1_j8uhc96 wrote

Pretty sure most people are okay with the idea of restorative justice when it comes to non-violent crime. However, there's no amount of community service that will bring a victim back to life or un-assault them.

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RJ5R t1_j8v16ld wrote

bingo

no jailtime IMO, just community service to clean up the community they trashed

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they need to take the owner of the vehicle to CarMax and buy him/her a comparable vehicle. looked like a Volvo....guess these 2 shitheads will be working night shifts somewhere to get the victim a new comparable used Volvo

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evv43 t1_j8v1jps wrote

Wanna say the same for the kids who car Jack all the Kia’s &. Hyundais, take for a joy ride with the homies. Do doughnuts and completely fuck the car and abandoned it to do the same?

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Dessertcrazy t1_j8wkmc7 wrote

Sadly, a guy delivering pizzas was shot by kids who tried to hijack his car. Hijacking is a violent crime, not like flipping a car. I walk by where he died every day ☹️

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Yolo_420_69 t1_j8w8t8e wrote

100% agree. I don't think this needs to be jail time. But everyone involved should do community service

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Zhuul t1_j8uc20a wrote

Delco is the Florida of the Philadelphia metro

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ThereAreDozensOfUs t1_j8ue6wg wrote

Delco still goes blue. Florida is…Florida

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Mike81890 t1_j8ukwpu wrote

Ehhhh purple innit?

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f64Club t1_j8vb0w8 wrote

Was solidly blue for the midterms.

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rcher87 t1_j8whs6i wrote

That’s pretty new, though, and there’s a still a lootttt more red/purple than you’d think. (Historically was working class white, has been shifting more diverse/black and getting more blue with that shift. The wealthier areas of DelCo are also not as sure of a lock for Dems as they are in other surrounding counties, but have also been trending progressive)

I’d call it purple-but-moving-blue. Should be like MontCo pretty soon (solidly blue with pockets of red).

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ucqyw wrote

It really is. I also feel that way a little about some of the bucks county area along the delaware, like bristol and croydon (my apologies to bristol and croydon for saying that)

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sugr_magnolia t1_j8uhm84 wrote

I was born in Bristol and lived in Croydon until I was 5 and I approve this statement.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ui86y wrote

I've been in a neighborhood in Arkansas that reminded me of Croydon. And I've been in a neighborhood in Alabama that reminded me of South Jersey

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lirio2u t1_j8wf3c2 wrote

Stop the Delco hate. There are some bad apples and the rest are the salt of the Earth, man.

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Fatdaddy543 t1_j8vdpqz wrote

I went to high school with the guy on the left, and I gotta say, I’m not really surprised by this 😭

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itsDANdeeMAN t1_j8wt7zw wrote

How much did he squat

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Fenris_Maule t1_j8wux7o wrote

I deleted my comment cause I got spooked because I also know #2 (in video from the article) from my gym as well. Pretty sure the dude could squat 405 though. Kind of ironically, one time him and his cop buddy were talking near me while I was working out and I overheard them laughing about the cop basically cracking skulls... Of course the cop is a wide white dude with a thin mustache from Delco.

Edit: actually now that I think about it I know the guy on the right too. He works out with #2 from the video all the time.

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myothercarisapynchon t1_j8uacok wrote

mf on the left is giving heatmiser

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MEB_PHL t1_j8uoksu wrote

Asking a clifton heights kid to not do property damage is like asking a rooster not to crow, or the sun not to shine

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thisisntshakespeare t1_j8uv7k2 wrote

“Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son”.

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crash12345 t1_j8vgl0t wrote

You know what pisses me off beyond the car vandalism? All the fucking trash on the ground. I saw it incessantly walking thru Center City Sunday. People drinking Trulys and Bud Lights and throwing it on the fucking pavement. Like literally hordes of people.

What fucking century are we living in that throwing trash on the ground is normalized again???? There are trash cans at every street corner. And you know its a bunch of South Jersey and Delco kids who talk shit about how dirty Philly is, only to come in and litter like pigs.

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courageous_liquid t1_j8wx57j wrote

On monday I saw an unfortunate SEPTA worker sweeping up all the cans in the subway and muttering to himself. There's trashcans literally everywhere at platform level.

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P0tency t1_j8ya5ox wrote

Yeah north Philly is just always like that though.

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SpreadSharp7476 t1_j91n2mx wrote

I despise litter, and those who throw it on the ground, but I do have to point out that people in Philly historically threw their trash in the streets and pigs ate it.

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PoquitoChef t1_j9dxkmy wrote

Saw some 10 y o looking suburban kid toss trash over the side fence of the Barnes building 🫠 would have called him out but I was on a bus.

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ElenorWoods t1_j8wc0y9 wrote

Are you joking? “The fault of the bars”? Throwing trash on the ground is a character flaw of the person who allows themself to do it.

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ElenorWoods t1_j8wq2sh wrote

In all of my years of drinking, I’ve never thrown shit on the floor. You sound like you’re trash.

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Fushinaz t1_j8wq3hd wrote

You got to be kidding me. You’re basically saying that these individuals who threw trash on the street away from the bar aren’t responsible for their own behavior. If they left the bar with cans and bottles, should the bar have come down to this street and cleaned up after these people?

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8wqlh5 wrote

These kids are buying cases of michelob from the beer distributors and having house parties. Highly doubtful they were at the bars

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familyofgeniuses t1_j8u8gbw wrote

I'm glad Larry took the time to make a tough on crime public statement for this case.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8u8w8s wrote

"'I think the bottom line is more books, less booze," Krasner said.'"

ok thanks, lawrence

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freddyoff t1_j8ua78k wrote

This 100%, really tackling the hard hitting issues of the city and giving himself a Pat on the back. The sanctimony needs to cease.

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BottleTemple t1_j8v1k2a wrote

I think going after entitled pricks who break the law is a lot better than the "it's ok because they're in college and sports are exciting" argument.

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Scumandvillany t1_j8ugvxv wrote

Literal jabronis. Look like ones too.

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jwillystyle77 t1_j8uph0w wrote

Glad we didn’t have good cameras when I was in my 20’s.

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BottleTemple t1_j8v1bl5 wrote

Did you flip a lot of cars?

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DonQOnIce t1_j8wgypv wrote

Yeah, uh, I wouldn’t really be worried if there had been cameras since I didn’t riot in the street and commit property damage in my 20s, personally…

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FriendofMaudie t1_j8v3cal wrote

Actually wondered if any of them would turn themselves in since it was pretty clear they'd get nabbed. Good on them for that, at least.

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irishgambin0 t1_j8vnb80 wrote

Winston Wolf: You guys look like a couple of...I dunno, what do these guys look like to you Jimmy?

Jimmy: Dorks. They look like a couple of dorks.

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sexarseshortage t1_j8vn7de wrote

That must have been a bad hangover.

The thing that stood out to me in the video was that it was a full on student block party on a residential street. Imagine that was outside your house all day and then the fuckers flip your car.

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Angsty_Potatos t1_j8vx5id wrote

Who had Delco on their bingo cards?

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rcher87 t1_j8whw9b wrote

Everyone? Lmao. Delco ruining the night should be the free square.

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Snakealicious t1_j8wi8o2 wrote

I have a no license plate car on my block that hasn't moved in about a year, wish they'd come down and flip that one for us so it could get removed. I've had no luck with 311.

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vivaportugalhabs t1_j8wgi6w wrote

Looked more like a riot than a "block party" to me.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8x2iuq wrote

It 100% reminded me of back in the day Fat Tuesday and the Freaknik on South St back in the 90s

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8y6m1r wrote

yeah I spent a lot of years being a "bad kid" but compared to this, I was an angel. My bad kid days were spent cutting school, smoking pot, and drinking beers in the woods. I never destroyed property because I was terrified of being on the receiving end of a whoopin from my parents, which if I think about it, was far worse than being in jail

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moderately_random t1_j8yyf1u wrote

Scumbags from outside of the city love coming to cause trouble and then complain about the troubles of the city.

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vasquca1 t1_j8wu5rb wrote

They represent the L in Super Bowl LVII

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calebnf t1_j8yvp99 wrote

They're always from Delco or South Jersey.

Every. Fucking. Time.

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Electr_O_Purist t1_j8x00dh wrote

One of these guys is definitely going to end up with a lesser sentence than the other.

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magicmurph t1_j8vnbdz wrote

They were probably part of the Comcast outage, which covered about half the city. The city where the corporation is headquartered. On Super Bowl Sunday. In which the same city is competing.

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Little_Noodles t1_j8we4mk wrote

That was centered around my neighborhood - word us it was someone trying to jack some free cable tv - I don’t think it extended that far west.

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