Submitted by Failedmysanityroll t3_10yu22g in philadelphia
I was out and about early in the morning and snapped this pic
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Dryheavemorning t1_j7zwsny wrote
A reminder of how stupid "Bernie or Bust" was.
babywithahugedick t1_j7zzwfk wrote
Fuck man we almost had it
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Hoyarugby t1_j804o5s wrote
So much from the 2016 primary aged terribly. Reddit was foaming at the mouth over the TPP because /r/gaming got convinced that a trade treaty that included provisions intended to curb IP theft in Indonesia would mean that Interpol would come after people torrenting video games
bxball t1_j804uj2 wrote
No you didn't. It was never going to happen.
Psychogistt t1_j807dr6 wrote
It was a pretty good prediction
Glystopher t1_j807ffe wrote
We need to do something about the “powers that be”
illy-chan t1_j80br00 wrote
Better the powers than be than another cheeto man.
Hoyarugby t1_j80kxqs wrote
the powers that be meaning most Democratic primary voters?
Hib3rnian t1_j80ravn wrote
I totally lost respect for Bernie when he clearly had the nomination only to rollover and concede to Hillary because she was "due".
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PicklePanther9000 t1_j80whmu wrote
The voters?
Chadwards t1_j80zljm wrote
Almost had it? We never even had our car. Granny shifting not double clutchin like we should
Glystopher t1_j813lo8 wrote
Anyone that stands in the way of progress
New_Stats t1_j815hbj wrote
had what, a fucking cult? Yeah, we know, we watched in horror as it happened. Thank god most came to their senses, look at the fucking #demexit shit, that's Republican propaganda ffs
Raecino t1_j8169tx wrote
Bernie was right
New_Stats t1_j816izn wrote
Sanders can't even pass your stupid purity tests
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Hillary said the same fucking thing years ago and got crucified for understanding the political landscape better than people playing baby's first time paying attention to politics
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ArcherChase t1_j81c2mj wrote
Was, is, and will be again in the future. Listen to his speeches from the early 90's. He predicts a lot of the major issues we have because and lists the reasons for them.
Raecino t1_j81iagf wrote
Oh yeah I definitely know and have face palmed every time the establishment democrats go with their own, corporate pick. They’re looking to be making the same mistake if Biden runs again.
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defusted t1_j81kdtb wrote
He definitely didn't have the nomination. What he did was called being a good sport.
ERPoppop t1_j81zqlx wrote
TIL election headcanon is a thing
what on earth are you talking about?
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MacKelvey t1_j826poz wrote
good times, good times.
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FormerHoagie t1_j82ta15 wrote
The vast majority of the left were never going to support Sanders. He did a lot to raise awareness, and still does, but most people don’t want radical change. Maybe because nothing works out like you expect it will. People with great jobs and healthcare plans didn’t want the same healthcare as the poors. That’s the crux of if. They also expect the police to protect their neighborhoods but aren’t really concerned about who gets shot in North Philadelphia. Sanders was an affront to White Privilege. If you think your love of his socialist views is going to make a difference, you are wrong. 100% of Republicans and 70% of Democrats are not on that train, or they will jump before it reaches the station. Americans just don’t like to be equal, even when they are poor.
Even if by some miracle he became President. Congress would not have supported his plans. Newsflash, the president really doesn’t have that much power. His agenda wouldn’t have been passed.
karensPA t1_j82tbdd wrote
morons
explorewithdora t1_j82whcn wrote
Most of my Bernie 2016 friends are now defending big pharma and supporting the military industrial complex. The power of digital psyops in the last decade or so will be studied for centuries to come
psilosophist t1_j83q7i8 wrote
Who are you defining as “the left” here? Or rather what’s your definition of “left”? Like actual anti capitalists or just run of the mill “socially liberal, economically conservative” liberals?
soylentcoleslaw t1_j84275y wrote
More democrat primary voters flipped from Clinton to McCain in 2008 than flipped from Bernie to Trump in 2016. That's a fact. The cult is on the right, it was loosely organized and the racism was veiled until Clinton ran one of the shittiest campaigns imaginable and put the rate of destruction of political discourse in the US into warp speed. If there's a problem with voters, it's with the vast swaths of the public that supports progressive ideas but won't vote for them because they're scared that the other 70% of the country that also supports them is too chicken to do likewise.
MRichards18 t1_j849inm wrote
Very in-the-box thinking, just like you’re told.
There was a reason the DNC didn’t want Bernie to win and it wasn’t simply “because he wasn’t going to win.” They were afraid of how he’d shake up the norms and halt their corporate ties. In hindsight, since Hilldawg lost, maybe they should have let him have a go and bad orange man would have never been in office.
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New_Stats t1_j84a5u9 wrote
Clinton and McCain didn't have a rabid following. Trump and Sanders did. You act like I didn't see the crazy populism and the cult of personality with my own eyes.
>If there's a problem with voters
The problem is populism, it's destructive. And this shit right here is exactly why progressives don't do better, the utter contempt for voters you need in order to have your politicians win is always there, always mentioned. It's not just left wing populists it's their elected leaders and campaign staff too. The "I have the only correct politics and how you idiots don't see it is beyond me" is terrifying for non populists because it's the beginning of authoritarianism
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soylentcoleslaw t1_j84eit2 wrote
Both sides! Both sides! I'm too much of a pussy to try to stand up for basic human rights and the bare minimum quality of life for the general public that I'll compare the people advocating for those things with literal fascists. Fuck off. Yes I do have contempt for you fence sitters, you like to think that you're the reasonable ones when your only goal is to just try not to make things worse than they already are and you wonder why elections are so razor thin between you and right wing fascism.
ddkelkey t1_j84ejv8 wrote
Does it count as trending when you write a hashtag on the ground?
Tegoto t1_j84ibga wrote
The powers that be meaning capitalism.
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Squarg t1_j85h5lk wrote
God I hated Bernie so much back then. Glad I've mellowed out a bit but my god the entitled assholes literally couldn't get over losing.
Daddie76 t1_j866pxq wrote
> That’s a fact.
Nope.
Exit polls say 84% of Hillary supporters voted for Obama
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/
The poll people use to say more Hillary voter flipped for McCain was an opinion poll done during the primary. (https://news.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx)
Only 74.3% of Bernie's primary voters voted for Hillary.
Here is a table of the results(https://imgur.io/iiyC4Eo), as prepared by 538. As you can see, at least 24% of Bernie's primary voters voted against Hillary in the general election. And I'm sure you all remember this, but enough of them voted for Jill Stein to throw the election in MI, PA, and WI.
FormerHoagie t1_j87b85p wrote
Yep…all in the same tent. I’ve yet to meet an anti-capitalist who wasn’t socially liberal but that’s anecdotal I suppose.
FormerHoagie t1_j87de77 wrote
Clinton won the key primary states. California, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida and Texas. Clinton was a bad candidate but the numbers were still in her favor and she was most likely to win. Not a DNC conspiracy to prevent Sanders.
Richardthisisyerdad t1_j88h15m wrote
Double clutching is slower than granny shifting.
Richardthisisyerdad t1_j88h3o9 wrote
Hilliary railroaded him, and he still endorsed her.
jbphilly t1_j88iwug wrote
If by "it" you mean "not a Trump presidency," then yes, we almost had that. Could have had it if a bunch of butthurt leftists had been more interested in doing what was good for the country and voted, instead of obsessing about posturing and ideological purity. But nope, hating Hillary was more important than hating Trump, and now we have a fascist supermajority on the Supreme Court, taking away more of our rights every year. Great job!
If by "it" you mean "Bernie getting the Democratic nomination," then no, the math was never there. People were kidding themselves.
And I voted for him in both '16 and '20, I just had realistic expectations. And even if by some fluke he had ended up president, he wouldn't have had the ability to usher in a progressive paradise, because as you might have noticed, even moderate policies like Biden's can barely get through Congress. In a country where rural states have massively outsize power in the Senate, you can elect the most far-left president you want, that doesn't get you any closer to Medicare For All or anything else. It sucks but that's the reality we live in.
pleeplious t1_j88x4y9 wrote
It most definitely was a conspiracy. Did you read the emails sent from Donna brazielle
pleeplious t1_j88xi29 wrote
So many predictions. Jesus. Look at Zelensky for example. No one could have predicted this for his presidency. We have absolutely no way to know how a Bernie presidency would play out. What I do know is that Hillary wasn’t the right candidate because she LOST TO DONALD TRUMP. That’s how bad she was.
scheenermann t1_j890zrj wrote
Yous said it was a mistake to run Biden in 2020 too.
AbsentEmpire t1_j89258a wrote
The convention was a fun time, participated in several protests and enjoyed watching even more of them going up and down broad street.
Had a good time laughing at the professional political class fail to understand how to use a SEPTA token, real masters of the universe right there.
Raecino t1_j892lqs wrote
Yes I thought that was a mistake too. The election was too close for comfort. Bernie was a better choice.
magicmurph t1_j897yrp wrote
It was. He is by far the worst-case scenario. We're on the brink of global war.
magicmurph t1_j8980eh wrote
Liberals are not the left.
magicmurph t1_j898ara wrote
We were right not to vote for her. I'll take selfish incompetence over pure evil any day of the week.
But don't worry, the dems are getting their wish. We have Biden now, and the world teeters on the brink of war.
magicmurph t1_j8993hq wrote
This brings back a lot of wonderful memories. I lived in FDR Park that week, and was at the barricades. I turned down being a delegate, after working for the campaign, but I was able to be on the ground for the whole affair, relaying messages and goings on to the outside.
I met a lot of amazing people, and made friendships that will likely last my lifetime. I sat in a circle with Jill Stein and discussed the speech she had just given. I took selfies with Vermin Supreme and asked him when I was getting my damn pony. I spoke to hundreds, thousands of disillusioned young people, who knew that we were going to get robbed, but turned out in force anyway.
And even though the inevitable happened, and the democrats didn't follow their own rules, we woke an entire generation up to the corruption at every level of the electorate. And while I grow old and weary, I know that the fire is still lit in the hearts of the young. I only hope they can keep it burning.
magicmurph t1_j899tv7 wrote
Bernie 1000% would have won in a landslide, it's no question. It's not even up for debate, it's fully accepted.
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adwvn t1_j89g6rq wrote
I think that's the sentiment for most socialists or independents that were willing to compromise and support him. It's also pathetic that he's basically like any pro war democrat , bragging about voting to spend 100 billion of tax payer dollars on Nazis in the most corrupt country in Europe.
He stabbed a huge amount of his supporters in the back. The only people still crazy for him are Social Democrat.
FormerHoagie t1_j89v2ss wrote
Amongst Bernie supporters
xndlYuca t1_j8b88pl wrote
He’ll be dead soon
scheenermann t1_j8ezbcv wrote
With who? Russia? Russia is struggling to fight a local war, so I have no idea why so many gullible Americans think Russia is game for fighting a world war. Russia is just not at that caliber nowadays, this isn't the Soviet Union.
Or are you referring to Chinese balloons?
scheenermann t1_j8f0ci7 wrote
No offense, but it's easy to make statements that can't be verified. It's alternate history. I can just as easily say you are wrong and Bernie would have been trashed twice by Trump.
Raecino t1_j8ffifv wrote
Well the polling numbers at the time would’ve proven you wrong. And that’s how I felt at the time and still feel, there’s nothing alternate about my feelings.
scheenermann t1_j8ixiox wrote
Every Democratic candidate polled over Trump.
It's great to have feelings, but to reiterate, your feelings were wrong in 2020.
Raecino t1_j8izxy5 wrote
Yes but whose populist style did Trump parrot for himself? Bernie. Bernie was a better candidate against Trump when the Dems ran Clinton. He was a better candidate against Trump when the Dems ran Biden. Running Biden again will be disastrous.
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