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NonIdentifiableUser t1_j6x18ya wrote

from today at 13th and Chestnut. There’s almost zero political will to tackle the car brained vocal voting bloc unfortunately. Following this thread to hopefully find some hope.

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LFKhael t1_j6x1lwt wrote

We really need to replace some of that parking with designated loading zones.

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gnartato t1_j6x89ol wrote

I don't understand why we don't crack down on the amount of cars literally in existence in the city via enforcing laws already on the book, then making loading zones at the beginning and ending of EVERY SINGLE BLOCK. Then towing and impounding every motherfucker who blocks a travel lane.

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[deleted] t1_j6xarl0 wrote

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starboardbaby t1_j6xua2i wrote

I mean, there are alleys behind lots of Center City streets, but not all. And not as many in other neighborhoods. Sucks when large parts of this city are crammed with one-way streets that lack alleyways.

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Gator1523 t1_j6yjr0h wrote

A potential band-aid: Have cars park in the car lane to unload instead of in the bike lane. Cars can go around by entering the bike lane, at which point they will make sure the lane is free of cyclists before proceeding.

But nobody wants to do that, because they're scared of angry drivers.

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gnartato t1_j6yteb9 wrote

If only we could put all those asshole tow truck drivers to work....imagine if they could tow any car stopped in a moving lane.

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Gator1523 t1_j7i8yrp wrote

Imagine a bounty program. $50 for every car you report. You could make thousands on a trip up any bike lane in Philly. That would solve the problem right away.

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NonIdentifiableUser t1_j6x29eb wrote

Absolutely. I don’t want anyone to get it twisted, this isn’t on the person making the delivery, but they should absolutely be ticketed so there’s pressure down the chain and people that actually have some kind of clout with city government start making noise.

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allisondojean t1_j6x8xds wrote

They are ticketed multiple times a day. The companies don't care, it's a cost of doing business for them. Make the tickets $500 and they might start to care.

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TreeMac12 t1_j6xk2dt wrote

>Make the tickets $500

Towing gets people's attention

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allisondojean t1_j6xkip0 wrote

This too although I imagine it's not easy to tow a semi filled with beer kegs or whatever.

For what it's worth, this would also benefit regular drivers so it's really a win/win situation.

I think NYC has designated streets only for semi/delivery parking but I have no idea how Philly would handle those logistics.

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NewcRoc t1_j6x4rbl wrote

The 13th Street bike lane is an absolute joke. They tried to pretend that a painted bike lane would be sufficient and now there's barely any paint left. It's now a full time loading zone for the restaurants there.

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MoreShenanigans t1_j6zr71x wrote

There used to be flex posts too, but everytime they put em up, they're quickly removed.

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PhillyAccount t1_j6yqgfr wrote

Good thing the city rolled out that high tech loading zone for commercial deliveries!

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Fattom23 OP t1_j71ul2c wrote

Yeah, it's the most Philly gov't thing I've ever heard: roll out a complicated (and presumably expensive) way to pay for something that you just give away free anyway. What a disgusting joke that idea is.

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