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gnartato t1_j6x0kuo wrote

Reply to comment by therealsteelydan in Pro-Pedestrian/Biking City Council/Mayoral Candidates by Fattom23

I don't like calling it anti-car. It's the vulnerability hierarchy. Pedestriaes are most vulnerable, then bicycles/scooters/boards, then motorcycles/heavy scooters, then cars. I'd even argue that the cars category should be broken down by weight class. The laws and roads should be enforced and designed to protect the more vulnerable over the less vulnerable. It's that simple.

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jbphilly t1_j6x5ek6 wrote

I'd argue bikes are way more vulnerable than pedestrians as they are (supposed to be) sharing the roadway with cars at almost all times, whereas pedestrians do so only at street crossings.

But it's not a contest obviously. All of us (and bikers/drivers are also all pedestrians at times) need to be protected from drivers.

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Fattom23 OP t1_j6x7lqi wrote

Inconveniencing walkers is worse than inconveniencing bikers

Inconveniencing bikers is worse than inconveniencing drivers

Inconveniencing drivers is the best

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gnartato t1_j6x7c3a wrote

Totally depends on the scenario. I posed it this way because bikes can easily clobber a pedestrian when they aren't yielding. The opposite is less likely, but then again, I've hit my share of not-looking or jaywalking pedestrians while biking.

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jbphilly t1_j6x9i08 wrote

Lol, don't even get me started on how many pedestrians will walk off a sidewalk straight into my path in the bike lane, while looking either in the opposite direction or straight down into their phone. While I'm obviously not going to victim-blame for all the pedestrians injured and killed by drivers, there are some people that seem to have a death wish or at least no survival instinct.

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AbsentEmpire t1_j6yihil wrote

Yep some people regardless seem to have a death wish. I've seen scooters and bikes cut off septa buses with just inches to spare.

They're only alive because the bus drive was able to respond so quickly, otherwise they'd maimed or dead.

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nubbin9point5 t1_j6x53ks wrote

Or height class, when you’re trying to pull out of a side street to a one way in a regular sized car when there’s a big-ass truck parked blocking the view.

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