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jl250 t1_j4r8gx4 wrote

Reply to comment by Evening_Presence_927 in I Am Michelle Go’s Father. I Am Marking Her Death Where She Lived. by WickhamAkimbo

>be a Republican.

No, he's not; if he were, he might actually do something like the only two mayors in our lifetimes to do something about crime - Giuliani and Bloomberg. The only two to actually care.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4rdhrw wrote

Lmao you mean the two that beat and killed black people and peaceful protestors on the reg?

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jl250 t1_j4rvop6 wrote

None of what you have written above is based in reality.

The controversy around policing during their terms was the practice of stop and frisk. I think stop and frisk is easy to criticize.

Now, I ask you - what is better, being stopped and questioned by police, or being hacked to death with machetes on a Bronx street like Lesandro Guzman?

Were we better off during stop-and-frisk, or in 2022 when 150 KIDS were shot, making them 1 out 10 shooting victims?

Maybe you DGAF about these kids, or the other shooting victims, because they are overwhelmingly in places like the South Bronx and East NY.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4s7j3t wrote

> The controversy around policing during their terms was the practice of stop and frisk.

Lmao not even close

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gray_(police_officer)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Amadou_Diallo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Anthony_Baez

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Dorismond

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ousmane_Zongo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Timothy_Stansbury

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Sean_Bell

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_Park_alleged_police_sodomy_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Premo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ramarley_Graham

All of those incidents happened during Giuliani and Bloomberg’s administrations. They have some serious blood on their hands.

> Were we better off during stop-and-frisk, or in 2022 when 150 KIDS were shot, making them 1 out 10 shooting victims?

Lmao you do realize that doesn’t help your case, right? Especially, given the plainclothes unit was reinstated last year.

> Maybe you DGAF about these kids, or the other shooting victims, because they are overwhelmingly in places like the South Bronx and East NY.

Lmao don’t act like you care about them, prick. You’re just using them as pawns in your argument for more fascist police measures.

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jl250 t1_j4sdwe5 wrote

Just...wow, at this comment. This is really not worth my time, but you should try to learn about statistical significance. You just shared 12 examples of tragedies spanning like 15 YEARS. I remember these incidents - some of them, like Abner Louima and Amadou Diallo are probably some of the defining events of my childhood as an NYC kid.

Twelve tragedies over 15 years do not represent a trend. Many more than 12 people die per year from their TVs falling on them, falling down stairs, slipping in the bathtub, etc.

As a 120 lb. woman, I wasn't really the target of stop-and-frisk, but I sure care about my father (who is constantly stopped and asked if he is Ice-T), and my older brother (who strongly resembles Mace, the 90s rapper). I have never once stayed up at night thinking about them being stopped and frisked, I sure do worry about them catching a stray bullet in the Bronx, from the gangs who are running unabated.

Finally, I realize there are a lot of bored white people like you (as revealed by "prick" and "fascist") who want a pet project or something, but minorities are not it. We don't need your "help". Stop promoting hatred of and undermining the police. *We* live in the high crime neighborhoods and public housing that are ravaged by gangs, not you.

If you want a cause, go to the ASPCA shelters and help some homeless dogs.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4t8cc6 wrote

> Twelve tragedies over 15 years do not represent a trend

Lmao this is so obviously made in bad faith. If they all have a similar pattern or common denominator, it absolutely is a trend.

> I remember these incidents - some of them, like Abner Louima and Amadou Diallo are probably some of the defining events of my childhood as an NYC kid.

So you know the NYPD isn’t to be trusted.

> As a 120 lb. woman

Sure bro

> I sure care about my father (who is constantly stopped and asked if he is Ice-T), and my older brother (who strongly resembles Mace, the 90s rapper)

r/thathappened

> Finally, I realize there are a lot of bored white people like you (as revealed by "prick" and "fascist") who want a pet project or something, but minorities are not it. We don't need your "help". Stop promoting hatred of and undermining the police. We live in the high crime neighborhoods and public housing that are ravaged by gangs, not you.

Lmao just because you refuse to acknowledge a problem doesn’t mean it’s not there. I’m not promoting hatred of anything. These guys are doing it to themselves, so fuck you for trying to defend the police for behaving badly. I guarantee you wouldn’t feel the same if it happened in your community.

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4zem t1_j4uvhmt wrote

>Im not promoting hatred of anything

proceeds to promote hatred of police

#THE GARBAGE YOU SPOUT

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4vqa73 wrote

Please show me where I’m “promoting hatred of police?” All of the articles I cited happened, so it’s not like I’m lying about them.

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