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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4qo5re wrote

Reply to comment by 4zem in I Am Michelle Go’s Father. I Am Marking Her Death Where She Lived. by WickhamAkimbo

I mean, we voted for the cop specifically because of this. Turns out he doesn’t have any actual plan to deal with it other than to pose for the camera and be a Republican.

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jl250 t1_j4r8gx4 wrote

>be a Republican.

No, he's not; if he were, he might actually do something like the only two mayors in our lifetimes to do something about crime - Giuliani and Bloomberg. The only two to actually care.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4rdhrw wrote

Lmao you mean the two that beat and killed black people and peaceful protestors on the reg?

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jl250 t1_j4rvop6 wrote

None of what you have written above is based in reality.

The controversy around policing during their terms was the practice of stop and frisk. I think stop and frisk is easy to criticize.

Now, I ask you - what is better, being stopped and questioned by police, or being hacked to death with machetes on a Bronx street like Lesandro Guzman?

Were we better off during stop-and-frisk, or in 2022 when 150 KIDS were shot, making them 1 out 10 shooting victims?

Maybe you DGAF about these kids, or the other shooting victims, because they are overwhelmingly in places like the South Bronx and East NY.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4s7j3t wrote

> The controversy around policing during their terms was the practice of stop and frisk.

Lmao not even close

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gray_(police_officer)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Amadou_Diallo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Anthony_Baez

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Dorismond

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ousmane_Zongo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Timothy_Stansbury

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Sean_Bell

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_Park_alleged_police_sodomy_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Premo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ramarley_Graham

All of those incidents happened during Giuliani and Bloomberg’s administrations. They have some serious blood on their hands.

> Were we better off during stop-and-frisk, or in 2022 when 150 KIDS were shot, making them 1 out 10 shooting victims?

Lmao you do realize that doesn’t help your case, right? Especially, given the plainclothes unit was reinstated last year.

> Maybe you DGAF about these kids, or the other shooting victims, because they are overwhelmingly in places like the South Bronx and East NY.

Lmao don’t act like you care about them, prick. You’re just using them as pawns in your argument for more fascist police measures.

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jl250 t1_j4sdwe5 wrote

Just...wow, at this comment. This is really not worth my time, but you should try to learn about statistical significance. You just shared 12 examples of tragedies spanning like 15 YEARS. I remember these incidents - some of them, like Abner Louima and Amadou Diallo are probably some of the defining events of my childhood as an NYC kid.

Twelve tragedies over 15 years do not represent a trend. Many more than 12 people die per year from their TVs falling on them, falling down stairs, slipping in the bathtub, etc.

As a 120 lb. woman, I wasn't really the target of stop-and-frisk, but I sure care about my father (who is constantly stopped and asked if he is Ice-T), and my older brother (who strongly resembles Mace, the 90s rapper). I have never once stayed up at night thinking about them being stopped and frisked, I sure do worry about them catching a stray bullet in the Bronx, from the gangs who are running unabated.

Finally, I realize there are a lot of bored white people like you (as revealed by "prick" and "fascist") who want a pet project or something, but minorities are not it. We don't need your "help". Stop promoting hatred of and undermining the police. *We* live in the high crime neighborhoods and public housing that are ravaged by gangs, not you.

If you want a cause, go to the ASPCA shelters and help some homeless dogs.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4t8cc6 wrote

> Twelve tragedies over 15 years do not represent a trend

Lmao this is so obviously made in bad faith. If they all have a similar pattern or common denominator, it absolutely is a trend.

> I remember these incidents - some of them, like Abner Louima and Amadou Diallo are probably some of the defining events of my childhood as an NYC kid.

So you know the NYPD isn’t to be trusted.

> As a 120 lb. woman

Sure bro

> I sure care about my father (who is constantly stopped and asked if he is Ice-T), and my older brother (who strongly resembles Mace, the 90s rapper)

r/thathappened

> Finally, I realize there are a lot of bored white people like you (as revealed by "prick" and "fascist") who want a pet project or something, but minorities are not it. We don't need your "help". Stop promoting hatred of and undermining the police. We live in the high crime neighborhoods and public housing that are ravaged by gangs, not you.

Lmao just because you refuse to acknowledge a problem doesn’t mean it’s not there. I’m not promoting hatred of anything. These guys are doing it to themselves, so fuck you for trying to defend the police for behaving badly. I guarantee you wouldn’t feel the same if it happened in your community.

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4zem t1_j4uvhmt wrote

>Im not promoting hatred of anything

proceeds to promote hatred of police

#THE GARBAGE YOU SPOUT

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4vqa73 wrote

Please show me where I’m “promoting hatred of police?” All of the articles I cited happened, so it’s not like I’m lying about them.

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4zem t1_j4qtt9z wrote

Dems, reps - all the same shit. Maybe I’m just jaded but I feel like these people are all a bunch of crooks. The system is just broken.

And don’t even get me started on our movie-star mayor.

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York_Villain t1_j4r3tk5 wrote

You have a history of posting in extreme right wing subreddits. Democrats are not the same as republicans.

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4zem t1_j4r4d1p wrote

Extreme right wing? Lmfao what?

And yes they are, the same shit with a different name. Keep slurping up that kool-aid kiddo, the government is not coming to save you or anyone else.

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York_Villain t1_j4r4zis wrote

You visit /r/walkaway and /r/askthe_donald posting extreme right wing bullshit. So yes.

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4zem t1_j4r65as wrote

Whatever you say, chief. Might wanna go get your meds changed soon as you can.

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York_Villain t1_j4r6iv5 wrote

It's not what I say. It is a fact. You can try and insult me all you want, but that doesn't change the FACT that you visit and participate in extreme right wing subreddits. So when you say both sides are the same, not only are you wrong but you are being disingenuous.

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4zem t1_j4r759q wrote

I’m supposed to navigate the Internet to your standards now? Sure, I use reddit but I’m supposed to tiptoe around every subreddit and know their EXACT political leanings? Get fucked, honestly. People like you is exactly what is wrong with the world. You’d gate-keep whatever you could, whenever you could, and what’s best is you allow your inclinations to serve as canon. So yeah, I’ve visited around particular subreddits like most people navigating this site - doesn’t mean what you say is true.

And yes. Both sides aim for the same goal. To rob the hard working man blind. What they accomplish in the interim may be different but the end goal is the same. Rob from the poor and give to the rich.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4s8nte wrote

No, but it’s very telling the connection between the places you visit and the garbage you spout.

> Both sides aim for the same goal. To rob the hard working man blind. What they accomplish in the interim may be different but the end goal is the same. Rob from the poor and give to the rich.

Lmao you’re trolling if you think the biggest investment in clean technology and clean industries ever doesn’t help the poor.

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