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IsayNigel t1_j4tht9m wrote

I mean more often than not the situation that drive the people from their home countries are directly the result of things we do.

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Jaaawsh t1_j4tnv13 wrote

We? ‘We’ are not corporations or the military industrial complex that lobby for the things you speak of. ‘We’ are not the corrupt officials who run these other countries.

‘We’ are people who are being squeezed by bigger and bigger taxes, fees, inflation, rent, healthcare costs all while not having wages commensurately increase. ‘We’ are the 60% of people who live paycheck-to-paycheck one emergency away from homelessness. All the while ‘we’ watch people who are not even citizens get placed in hotels in some of the most sought-after areas to live in, making sure their needs are taken care of like food and healthcare. And then when ‘we’ get mad about this ‘we’ have to listen to morally-righteous-virtue-signaling-bleeding-hearts who advocate for conflicting policy goals; chastise us for being responsible for things a handful of rich and influential people make decisions about and how if we don’t agree with them that it is our moral responsibility to take care of the entire developing and undeveloped world’s peoples then it’s because we’re cold-hearted or racist or closeminded-maga-worshippers.

No. Just no. I don’t support hardly anything Abbot or Desantis support, and the transfer of migrants to cities like NY is obviously a cynical political ploy but seems like this needed to happen to make people in living in the blue-bubbles that are metro areas start to realize that perhaps looser immigration doesn’t mix with their other policy goals.

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IsayNigel t1_j4tq8jb wrote

Lmao I work a far more thankless job that requires far more personal sacrifice than you do, so spare me about “how hard it is” I live it every day. These migrants have to deal with unimaginable hardships after our policy choices fuck up their entire countries so they walk thousands of miles, and you’re mad they get to stay in a hotel for a few months because why, you deserve to live in mid town for some reason? I feel like they’d rather probably be in their home countries instead of in a brand new place where they may or may not speak the language and most people hate them. But I’m sorry you don’t get to live in a hotel or whatever.

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Jaaawsh t1_j4trilu wrote

I don’t hate them, I emphasize with them but that doesn’t mean I’m going to virtue signal and advocate martyrdom because of policy choices made by lobbyists and the politicians they have in their pocket along with the corrupt officials in other countries.

The fact is, the economically progress policies and programs many people would like to see, will never be realized with our current immigration policies. Well, unless we find a way to effortlessly create goods and provide services out of thin air for an infinite amount of people.

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dagobahnmi t1_j4vklev wrote

Just funding and supporting multinational drug cartels, overthrowing and assassinating democratically elected leaders and politicians and installing psycho dictators who torture and murder their citizens, sponsoring and coordinating with ultra-violent militias to control popular political sentiment, and maybe a little light military intervention from time to time.

If you don’t think the US (as a state actor) bears a substantial amount of responsibility for the current state of Latin America, I’d suggest that you may not be as well informed as you might assume. Really don’t mean to be a dick here, but the broad history of US intervention in LatAm is not especially debatable, and easily researched.

Edit: the now deleted (lol) comment said “last I checked we aren’t dropping bombs on South America”, or something to that effect (I think that’s a literal quote but if not it was very close).

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