b1argg t1_j6ixx64 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 5:44 PM

Reply to comment by ChrisFromLongIsland in Clearing Vendors From the Brooklyn Bridge Won’t Solve Its Overcrowding Problem by StrngBrew

Also, even if it isn't faster, more space allows more thoroughput. To use a car example (reeeeee) 4 lanes of traffic at 20mph is still moving more people than 3 lanes at 20mph. Same concept applies to any mode of transportation.

TeamMisha t1_j6jcwjd wrote on January 30, 2023 at 7:17 PM

Caveat is where is the capacity limitation? For example if your 4 lanes need to go down to 2 lanes (like our tunnels) you are in fact not moving anymore people per hour cause you still are trying to shove more people in a finite space that already has reached capacity. A lot of out bottlenecks are bridges and tunnels, or more specifically the merge downs. Adding more lanes upstream allows more drivers to wait, BUT they will be waiting longer as now you have more cars attempting to merge or go through the bottleneck.

HEIMDVLLR t1_j6k5z4x wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:17 PM

I get this and is the exact argument I have against up-zoning a residential area with limited mass transit service.

TeamMisha t1_j6kyxop wrote on January 31, 2023 at 1:41 AM

Indeed. The generally accepted standards would be to go with the transit. I think it's usually 0.5-0.75 mile sweet spot around subway stations are the primary targets for upzoning. Queens still has a lot of untapped potential in that respect along the E for example, I mean there's detached 1-2 story housing one block away from some some stations on Queens Blvd. Hell even Astoria has much, much more potential. But, no I wouldn't support say a 25 story building in Whitestone that would be marketed solely on the basis of having a 5 story underground garage. We saw an issue like this were I think developers were expecting the ill-fated Queens Brooklyn LRT along Vernon Blvd, it did not materialize yet we have a bunch of new towers in that area.