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sutisuc t1_j42x6ay wrote

Replying to Unusual-Solid3435 (#1,344,025)

Hell there’s tolls even across the five boroughs which is even worse. I get charging a toll crossing between different cities or states but charging a toll just to cross from queens to the Bronx is absurd.

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earlymountainrain t1_j433bo6 wrote

Things cost money.

This isn't fucking wallawalladingdong with 5 crossings per day

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VanillaSkittlez t1_j438r2u wrote

Replying to Unusual-Solid3435 (#1,344,443)

Taxes on who? In what form?

My general opposition to this is that taxes get collected and dispersed through a government agency to whatever they feel is most important: maybe it’s 30% operating expenses, 2% for parks and recreation, 15% for transit, etc.

With tolls, that money is kept within the transit funding. Riding over an MTA bridge and paying an MTA toll means that money goes directly into the NYC subway.

My other opposition to this is that car owners skew wealthy in NYC. If you drive, you should be paying into the system. Taking that burden and imposing it on everyone in the form of taxes just hurts the working class more.

The bridge costs money no matter what. Why should I have to pay for your toll if I don’t drive?

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mikere t1_j43a6u8 wrote

free if you have a fake paper tag, no plate at all, or put a piece of tape over your plate

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ECK-2188 t1_j43d6pt wrote

Can someone explain to me why they’re raising tolls again?

Could have sworn it was $15 for GWB in 2021, $16 last year, and now they’re raising it again?

I already know the NY fiscal revenue is based on highway robbery but this is just brazen.

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tells t1_j43nysi wrote

Are they not on the same page about reducing inflation? can we get Jerome Powell on the phone with these guys?

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VanillaSkittlez t1_j43r2wn wrote

Replying to Unusual-Solid3435 (#1,345,032)

You almost certainly couldn’t do away with tolls without also raising taxes on the middle class. There simply isn’t enough tax revenue among the top earners to cover that. And if you tried to make it super progressive like 1950s era taxation with top earners getting taxed at 90% of income they would just… Yknow, leave. Or simply find ways to skirt it by avoiding making income and instead put it into assets.

All besides the point that eliminating tolls would simply incentivize car dependency. What better way to entice people to buy cars and use their existing cars more than to literally make everything free? The last thing this city needs is more motor vehicles on the roadways, and the bridge tolls serve as critical funding for public transit projects.

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iv2892 t1_j43wyqm wrote

Why the hell is an increase necessary ? They better not increase the subway fare if they want to encourage de congestion

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lapuneta t1_j440mqa wrote

If only that money was going to replacing the infrastructure

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deaddabrain t1_j466zgp wrote

Free money. Im surprised they don’t go even higher.

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theshruj t1_j46zgac wrote

Replying to PostPostMinimalist (#1,351,519)

for you and your life maybe.

Half the city owns a car or lives in a household that uses one. Stop pretending like Manhattan and Brooklyn are the only aspects of NYC.

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Edit: like cars aren't disincentivized by having a good public transport system. Trains, trams, rail, buses, etc. I haven't seen undeserved parts of the city get a train line or even discussion of that

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