Submitted by Shreddersaurusrex t3_10lh10h in nyc
juniperaza t1_j6159zf wrote
Reply to comment by Grass8989 in Adams: 'Right-to-shelter' law doesn't extend to migrants by Shreddersaurusrex
LOL. God you’re fucking stupid. But then again, Jordan Klepper has already proven that when it comes to how daft Trump supporters can be.
Firstly, emergency Medicaid is pretty much available to anyone. And it’s only for emergencies aka if someone is dying or suffering from a health condition that needs to be treated in the ER. The ER is not primary care nor does it provide anything. I know this because my mom went untreated for kidney disease for years before she became a permanent resident. And are we really going to deny someone medical care? I’m confused. And why are you mentioning migrants? Are you fucking stupid? The whole thread of comments started with a general comment about all immigrants. 36K migrants does not represent the actual 2 million+ immigrants that actually live in NYC lol. And I promise you they don’t all live in hotels and receive free meals. But you can continue to think that because the only thing you’ve proven is how incredibly xenophobic and racist you are. Congrats babe.
And wanted to add one last thing, you need a social security number to qualify for social welfare programs. Undocumented immigrants do not have a social security because well they’re here ‘’illegally’’. They’re unable to qualify for benefits in short. But you’re a moron who googled and ran with the only thing you saw which was ‘’emergency Medicaid’’. Which will only cover visits at the ER and no ER is permitted to deny anyone regardless of whether they’re a citizen or not lol. I guess our emergency rooms have better morals than the supposed ‘’NYers’’ that decided to comment on this post.
Grass8989 t1_j6176a0 wrote
Actually emergency Medicaid covers an unlimited amount of ER visits and due to EMTALA, no one can be turned away for any reason. No I’m not going to deny someone medical care, but this is clearly not sustainable long term. Thanks for the crass language, and assuming everyone who doesn’t think we should have completely open borders and take in the worlds poor is a Trump supporter tho, real critical thinking skills.
You do realize all of the major hospital systems in this city have a charity care system which allows people with little to no income to see primary care doctors and specialists for essentially free as well right?
juniperaza t1_j617tep wrote
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/ochia/downloads/pdf/fly-957-emergency-medicaid-english.pdf
It literally lasts 12 months and it’s for solely ER visits. And why would we ever try to turn anyone away from the ER? Do you realize the ER ONLY treats medical emergencies right? You realize that if you came into the ER for a non-emergency, you would be discharged and referred to an outpatient provider right? It also states that in the FAQs for the program. So I’m really unsure what your point here is. Why should we turn anyone away from the ER?
And I’ve never once argued for open borders. I’ve been arguing for lenient immigration policies that don’t separate families or deport children? So again, genuinely confused at one your point here is but I’m guessing this is the Trump views talking? Or maybe the lack of reading comprehension skills? I mean you’ve been doing quick google searches at everything you’ve been throwing my way. So it doesn’t surprise me that you haven’t actually taken out the time to read what you’re mentioning lol.
Grass8989 t1_j618sjr wrote
No one should be turned away from the ER, I never said that. However, someone who works a job and makes 50k a year and has to pay a $500 copay if they’re having a medical emergency, and someone who’s not a citizen get a free visit?
juniperaza t1_j61a8in wrote
Lol. Here is the bullshit again. You realize in the FAQ for emergency Medicaid, it specifically says that you only qualify for the program based on income requirements. And that income requirement for literally one person would mean they’re making less than $18K annually. Denying emergency medical care to an undocumented individual making less than $18K because the asshole making $50K has to pay a $500 copay wants to throw a fit is absurd. And literally emergency medical care is to save a life — it does not replace primary care or any of the other health specialties someone will PROBABLY need in their lifetime.
And you keep saying that no one should be turned away from the ER but you’re taking issue with a program that ensures that no one is afraid to visit the ER when their life depends on it. Like I’m not sure what you’re not comprehending here but I feel like the connection is pretty clear? Why are you taking issue with a program that has the only objective of making sure that anyone gets medical care when they need it?
It’s crazy because I could’ve swore Orange is the New Black had a whole season about how cruel immigration policies truly are in the US but clearly had no impact on American society. What a waste.
juniperaza t1_j61a4h2 wrote
Lol. Here is the bullshit again. You realize in the FAQ for emergency Medicaid, it specifically says that you only qualify for the program based on income requirements. And that income requirement for literally one person would mean they’re making less than $18K annually. Denying emergency medical care to an undocumented individual making less than $18K because the asshole making $50K has to pay a $500 copay wants to throw a fit is absurd. And literally emergency medical care is to save a life — it does not replace primary care or any of the other health specialties someone will PROBABLY need in their lifetime.
And you keep saying that no one should be turned away from the ER but you’re taking issue with a program that ensures that no one is afraid to visit the ER when their life depends on it. Like I’m not sure what you’re not comprehending here but I feel like the connection is pretty clear? Why are you taking issue with a program that has the only objective of making sure that anyone gets medical care when they need it?
It’s crazy because I could’ve swore Orange is the New Black had a whole season about how cruel immigration policies truly are in the US but clearly had no impact on American society. What a waste. I guess im the only one who cried 🤷🏻♀️
Edit: and last thing because I’m over arguing with stupid — I didn’t see your edit on your last comment but the whole NYC hospitals have charity care programs. Those are for residents aka citizens/permanent residents. And the major health systems in NYC are include NYP, Mount Sinai, and many more private healthcare chains who in fact do not see individuals without proof of payment aka insurance or self pay. With that being said, those private healthcare chains will only see undocumented individuals in their ER since it’s mandated by law thankfully.
Titty_Salad t1_j63woec wrote
Everyone who disagrees with me is a Trump supporter! You sound deranged.
juniperaza t1_j66erta wrote
Because those views directly align with Trump views on immigration? If you’re this vehemently against immigrants, you might as well be a Trump supporter 🤷🏻♀️ cry me a river
Titty_Salad t1_j68p4yp wrote
No need to cry, some people just have a more nuanced take than you and your mommy. Womp womp.
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