Die-Nacht t1_j33ymmm wrote
Reply to comment by kolt54321 in Traffic study by former head of NYC DOT reveals what he says is ultimate cause of congestion by HEIMDVLLR
Fewer cars driving into manhattan on said highways would decrease the chances of crashes.
Also, tear down the beltway. Tear down every single urban highway. Watch all that traffic disappear.
kolt54321 t1_j345fvd wrote
The Belt doesn't even go into Manhattan.
Die-Nacht t1_j345uz6 wrote
So? There are likely many cars on the belt trying to get to Manhattan.
It's the central business center of the region. Reducing car demand to it will cause reduced congestion everywhere around it.
kolt54321 t1_j34al16 wrote
So to reduce car demand you suggest... Eliminating roads?
That's the most backwards way to look at it that I can imagine. Why not knock down every residential building in manhattan to reduce rent if you're going down that route?
Die-Nacht t1_j34lhm2 wrote
That wouldn't reduce the rent. It would reduce housing supply, which would reduce how many ppl can live there. And that's a bad thing. This is why rent is so high in NYC: housing supply is artificially kept low.
Reducing road space reduces road supply, which reduces the amount of driving, which in term reduces traffic. Which is a good thing. This is the opposite of "induced demand", which is a well studied phenomena
kolt54321 t1_j34n1i9 wrote
Why would reduced road supply reduce the amount of driving? In transit deserts (there are plenty of them in NYC), you need to drive to get anywhere.
Die-Nacht t1_j34rnav wrote
If you are actually curious, there's a good amount of research on this. Here are some links from several different publications to get you started:
https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2021/03/19/reduced-demand-just-important-induced-demand
https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/
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