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aneightfoldway t1_j4hasyt wrote

Reply to comment by elizabeth-cooper in NYC budget cuts could worsen food crisis for hungry families by DrogDrill

From this comment it sounds like you're saying that unless someone dies from lack of food we shouldn't be concerned that they're struggling to buy themselves food? Those soup kitchens and pantries and free food programs require funding. They don't just magically appear. This post is about how funding is being cut for social services and public schools. You're actually making the point that funding being cut is detrimental to the way that people are currently surviving.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hbkoz wrote

Again: Nobody needs to struggle to buy food, there is plenty of free food available.

I've volunteered for a number of food distribution charities, I know how they work.

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hbvsz wrote

Where do you think the food comes from? The food fairy? Someone pays for the food, pays for the services to run, pays taxes so that those organizations can be tax exempt. The fact that you're saying "it's available" without addressing where it comes from shows that you don't have any concept of what it means to be food insecure.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hc0y5 wrote

I've volunteered for a number of food distribution charities, I know how they work.

Did you even read the article? It says the idea is to cut vacant positions and in comes the hysteria that this is going to make things worse. How can they be worse than now? Nobody is doing those jobs now, continuing to have nobody doing them cannot be worse.

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newestindustry t1_j4hkk80 wrote

>Nobody is doing those jobs now, continuing to have nobody doing them cannot be worse.

Great logic!

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hc52d wrote

Great then explain it to me. Where does the food come from? Who pays for it? Who pays for the distribution? Who says for the administration?

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hcuka wrote

This literally has nothing to do with the article. Neither the funding nor the food for charities is coming from HRA. Not to mention that "It’s unclear how many of those jobs are involved with the food stamp program."

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hfae8 wrote

Except that the HRA is responsible for funding over 500 soup kitchens and food pantries in NYC not to mention that the folks that provide administrative services and distribution for those very same soup kitchens and food pantries are employers of the HRA. Cutting funding for HIRING EMPLOYEES OF THE HRA is a huge problem for actually keeping those food pantries and kitchens operating.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hfpja wrote

The article is talking about the potential problem of processing SNAP applications, not soup kitchens. The article doesn't even touch on soup kitchens and doesn't give the slightest hint that soup kitchens may be in danger. You're literally inventing problems that don't exist even more than the people in the article are.

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hfygb wrote

Lol go back in this thread and see who brought up soup kitchens and food pantries. Certainly wasn't me.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hgu3p wrote

Yes, let's go back and replay this convo again.

Article: They're cutting jobs! People are starving!

Me: Nobody is starving. Even if SNAP is unavailable, there are still soup kitchens and free meals in schools.

You: Oh yeah, they're cutting soup kitchens!

Me: What? No, they're not. They don't even know what they're cutting. They don't even know if it's related to SNAP.

You: Oh yeah, but you brought up soup kitchens FIRST.

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hh83h wrote

Ok so it looks like you're confused. I didn't say "they are cutting soup kitchens". I said, it's disingenuous to suggest that folks who can't get SNAP can just get go to kitchens/pantries because it's just as possible that the administration of those kitchens/pantries will be negatively affected by these cuts.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hhr99 wrote

>t's just as possible that the administration of those kitchens/pantries will be negatively affected by these cuts.

They're not. The article doesn't even hint at that possibility.

Again: it says they're trying to cut currently vacant positions.

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hk4ut wrote

And, surprise surprise, this article doesn't cover every single thing that could possibly be affected. It's absolutely possible that cutting funding for the agency responsible for assisting the food insecure will leave more people food insecure.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j4hl6yi wrote

Its not cutting "funding to the agency." It's cutting vacant positions and the funding for those positions. What those positions do, nobody knows. We are going in circles. I keep repeating what the article says and you keep saying YEAH BUT YEAH BUT YEAH BUT

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aneightfoldway t1_j4hlffq wrote

Great, let's stop going in circles. If you think that it's "not true" that people will go without food after cutting funding for positions with the HRA then I wholeheartedly disagree with you. Do with that what you will and have a nice day.

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