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triple*
Double parking on both sides of the road
I’ve seen triple parking. Coming down 207 from broadway. It’s insane.
Chick-Fil-A UES 86th & 3rd. Triple parking capital of NYC.
But hey people need their Uber Eats!
That ain't new
it still sucks!
Also the optional red lights
I co-sign about uptown. Trying to cross B'way at 204th a couple of nights ago almost run over by a NJ-plated Mustang making a sharp right turn onto 204 heading east. Being followed by police who did the same thing to me. not awesome.
every stop light seems to be stoptional to folks up here. traffic in Jakarta is more civilized.
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There isn’t enough space for all the cars. There are too many cars.
And now the former Inwood councilman is the commissioner of the Department of Transportation. So this is what happens…
Came here to say this. I live in BK and work in Inwood. Not to mention the foreign cars doing donuts on busy intersections. Bk is no where near Inwoods level.
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Savory Deli on Amsterdam and 151st.
All fucken day every day there is a box truck double parked there and it's not the same truck. No way those people getting that many deliveries all day.
After Covid, laws are just suggestions in NYC now.
Correction: after the BLM protests the NYPD is on an intentional work stoppage until we all come crying back to them for stop and frisk and extrajudicial killings
*tantrum
A lot of the people terrorizing the city are repeat offenders. Which means the cops did their job 30 times and the system let them out.
Damn I still remember watching some live streams of shitload of police following and barricading the protesters marching up 8th ave while at the exact same time Soho was getting looted all over the place. Like someone surely gave them the order just let all that shit go right?
BLM was June 2020. Stop and frisk ended years prior to that.
It's really funny how the progressives on this sub oscillate between "police don't reduce crime and crime went down when they went on strike" and "police not doing their job is the reason why people are breaking the law so much".
Police are still arresting people, they just get out 2 hours later ROR.
The same people tasked with dealing with literal hardened criminals on the daily, and are issued a gun with the hope that they don’t kill without reason, but to possibly save their own lives. Yes, those police. When was the last time you feared for your life at your workplace? Bring on the downvotes. Every public service job - firefighter, cops, teachers - deserves double the salary of what they make currently.
They make more than soldiers in a literal warzone
Ps the top cop killer precovid is traffic accidents
Post covid... Well it's COVID
Lots of professions with higher fatalities than cops
They do get trained to be scared of everything thought
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> BLM wanted the community to have no police presence
…no? I heard a lot of people talking about better allocation of resources so the police aren’t dealing with homeless people, the mentally ill, not arming them with army-level tanks, etc etc. Yeah, there are/were extremists, same as every movement. Seems like a waste of everyone’s time to focus on them, though.
If all you’re willing to see is the right wing trope of a movement there’s never going to be any progress.
That's my conspiracy theory. Eventually the government is gonna swing back hard. We did fucking elect a cop as mayor.
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No.
yep
Show me the lie? NYPD basically considers the citizenry a nuisance
You can look at the traffic enforcement data and see where the decline happens. So… yes.
Where can I see this?
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Who are “these dudes”
Gotta factor in 2-3 cars flying through a red light before you go. Grinds my gears
Is the flying through red lights a new thing? The other day I saw literally 5 cars beep, one after the other, acting as if their Camry is a disguised fire ambulance, running through the red light. That needs to be squashed because it’s going to kill someone
I watched a fucking 18 wheeler blow right through a red light in BK today
In all fairness, sometimes the lights are quick as shit. I'll be going well under the speed limit at like 20 mph and below and I'm just too heavy to make the yellow. When the lights are timed I can predict and start my stop while the light is still green but sometimes it'll happen to fast for me to stop especially when it's wet and the road is rough.
One would say get 10 dash cams, 4 point seat belts, neck brace and you got yourself a nice business driving within speed limits, second after your light turns green.
The NYPD absolutely does not give a single iota of a fuck about dangerous drivers. The change would start at the top, but the mayor is a former cop, his DoT has no desire to take over traffic enforcement and fight the NYPD on that (even though they are legally allowed to do so), nor are they approaching traffic safety design in any holisic way, and the council as a group won't touch the NYPD budget at all.
So you're kind of stuck filing 311 complaints or dragging your ass to a "Build the Block" meeting, where some bored sergeant will almost, but never quite give enough of a fuck to help the situation.
I guarantee you nothing would change if DOT took over traffic enforcement. It would be the same work with a person wearing different words on their uniform patch. The only way it changes is if fines are increased, vehicle pursuits are authorized, and actual jail time for leading cops on pursuits.
People need to understand they’re fucked 6 ways to Sunday if they get stopped by a cop. They’re not gonna obey the law otherwise because there’s no incentive to be a safe driver.
When's the last time you saw NYPD doing any sort of traffic enforcement that isn't easy parking tickets? I honestly can't remember. While I'd love those changes too, let's start with the simple stuff first.
Why do you think it would be any different if DOT was doing it?
Authorize drones and just have them follow vehicles safely
I still remember when cops were chasing a stolen dirt bike.
Then the criminal caused an accident and died.
Who was at fault? The cops, because they are not suppose to chase.
I noticed a lot more “zero fucks given” across the board since the pandemic. Pedestrians, drivers, cyclist and straphangers just said fuck the rules.
Everyone is ignoring the traffic lights/stop signs, crosswalk signals and distracted by their phones.
The cops backed off in 2020. Then a ton of cops retired. Now everyone knows theres no consequences so here we are.
It’s definitely an understaffing issue but the cops that are still around also just won’t do their job. I’ve seen several incidences where people broke traffic laws hardcore (I’m talking excessive speeding, running red lights or stop signs, going against one ways) and the cops that saw it didn’t even bat an eye.
Gotta start this with pedestrians, and throw in cyclists and straphangers. Anything to excuse the only party behind the wheel of a 2 ton vehicle.
I started with pedestrians, because we’re all pedestrians first.
After you get out of the car, you have to walk to your destination. After you exit the subway station or get off the bus, you have to walk to your destination. Same with cyclist, they have to get off the bike at some point and walk to their destination.
Vehicles are not your enemy. If you think so, take that goofy shit to r/fuckcars.
Thanks man, next can you tell us about how a bill becomes law?
This is a thread about cars not stopping at red lights. Each and every one of these cars is my personal fucking enemy.
You just want to argue. My original point is, no one give a fuck about the rules. Which is placing all of US in danger. Just because I own a car doesn’t make me immune from getting hit.
As a driver, I can get t-boned by a car running a red light. I also could hit someone crossing against the light.
Same applies when I park my car and I’m walking to my destination, I have to pay attention while crossing the street, because I can get hit too!
It's not that owning a car doesn't make you immune from getting hit; it's me not owning a car does make me immune from hitting someone with it. You're saying no one gives a fuck about the rules, but the consequences of a driver not giving a fuck are so much more dire than anyone else not giving a fuck, that by wrapping drivers into the category of "no one", you're excusing them. And they don't have the excuse, they're the only ones with a power of unleashing 2 tons of weight on someone else.
It doesn't matter if I don't pay attention when crossing the street, running the red in your car is still exactly as wrong. You can get hit too, but you're a driver, of course you can get hit, the problem is you're putting other people in danger!
Or perhaps I just don't understand what you mean by "no one gives a fuck about the rules". Why do you think it's relevant to the problem of cars running the red lights?
Crossing against the light puts you and others in danger as well. You’re forcing a driver to either hit you or swerve and hit someone else.
Ask any driver how they respond when a pedestrian steps into the street or a cyclist blows a red light.
I'm sure this happens, but again, you're trying to equate two things are are not comparable. About 300 people die each year in New York from cars, and about 0 people die each year in New York from jaywalking. These are different things, on a different scale.
I'm not saying jaywalking is good, of course we should all look both ways and everything. I'm saying it is nothing compared to running red lights in a car. One has nothing to do with another, and one of them is a serious offense, while the other one is a nuissance.
They are comparable, because they have a cause and effect on each other. Cars swerving to avoid hitting pedestrians put others in danger. Running across traffic to catch a bus before it pulls off is dangerous. Staring at your phone while crossing the street is dangerous.
Jaywalking have caused accidents, even cyclists complain about pedestrians stepping off the curb into the bike lane and vice-versa, cyclist blowing red lights and hitting pedestrians crossing with the right-of-way.
The point is, everyone has to do better and not be an asshole toward others commuting.
Here we go again. They don't have a strong cause and effect on each other. Drivers don't kill 300 New Yorkers a year because of jaywalking or pedestrians staring at the phones.
I don't know if you're doing a bit at this point, but it's frankly offensive how over and over you're trying to assign the responsibility for driving responsibly to the people who are not in the car.
The difference between us is, I drive and know what I see every time I’m driving. You would be surprised how often drivers have to react to inconsiderate pedestrians.
People have this attitude that if they get hit, they can sue. Problem is, you can’t guarantee you will survive the hit.
I have to blow my horn at pedestrians crossing against the light. The person taking their time crossing after the light is flashing to don’t cross, don’t care to look up because they’re distracted by their phone.
I get what you see when you're driving. I just don't understand why that's relevant. Do you think the behavior you see allows you to run red lights? Or why are you recounting these anecdotes?
Before the police can crack down on people not stopping at red lights, the police need to learn they’re actually not allowed to run red lights
they go to lunch and out their lights on to go threw lights. I think because the police are so poorly paid they do not care.
Poorly paid??? How is 70k poorly paid? That’s well more than average, and all they need to do is grope people for looking suspicious. Or respond to a welfare check, take some notes, and go back to cruising around town. Or beat up and fine some poor dude for hopping a subway turn style.
NYPD cops start at below 50k. SF cops start at just below 100k. Yes, NYPD are paid shit and we’re getting what we pay for.
Wow their unions suck. The department gets plenty of money, they should be arguing for more of that to go to cops’ homes instead of to their paramilitary armaments and robot dogs. I know they’re unionized…
I dont know what the starting salaries are for cops in 22-23 wasn't there a story about cops going to FL because Florida paid them better and gave bonuses and treated them better. So if they made 70k they would be well off and at least better off. It would depend on how much FL would pay them to relocate?
NYPD DOES NOT MAKE 70K unless they have been there for years. It is the rookie cops and cops 5 years on job they are still low pay.
The cops making the big bucks are inside the station or detective in unmarked cars and on special assignments.
I remember back in 11 a cop was at a deli who was broke and could not afford the cup of coffee. Someone gave him a buck. He was 2 years on the job he said and he made 29k sad!!!!
you were lied to by a cop
Hey that guy lied to you.
Are you a cop?
If you look at the starting salaries it shows it so low? Maybe cops got a raise over the years?
Suffolk county cops make more and are the highest paid cops
Okay, neat. That guy lied to you.
ok your a cop
Salaries are posted online because it's a public job, on top of that you can see cops making up to 2-300k per year with overtime
Those are executives and not representative of rank and file. There’s maybe less than 1000 cops making that income, and that’s only because they’re 6/7 tiers of supervision up. Your average street cop is looking at maybe 130 if he’s getting a shitton of overtime and
You can see their time in the NYPD as well as their titles. Stop spreading misinformation that you didn't even bother to verify, idiot.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/widgets/k397-673e?mobile_redirect=true
So whats the total count of cops making 200k? Cuz I can tell you any cop making that amount is at least a Lieutenant
No, I’m a teacher, and like cops, our salaries are posted online because we are public servants. That dude lied to you.
and you just believed that? Lmao
While you are correct that cops did make 25k a year starting (just over the poverty line as per their contract so they couldn’t qualify for government aid) those same cops had their contract raised to 45k starting and 85k topped out. That being said, look at the neighboring counties, cops making 100 110 120 even 150 a year before overtime doing half the workload NYPD has. They make a “lot” compared to low income jobs but they’re the low income job next to their peers.
The part of NYC we left out is Manhattan well you cant do to much lawless there because Manhattan has so much cameras.
10 years of being a cop or more they make 70 or more.
Starting salary: $42,500 Salary after 5 ½ years: $85,292.
From the gov website
That doesn't include the OT they scam undoubtably earn by the sweat of their porky brow.
OT + Court Pay + Differential if you work nights + awesome health insurance that's cheap as fuck + etc etc etc
Don’t forget the sex on the job
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It’s wild out here. Cars are parking on crosswalks by me (university heights). No ticket. No tow. Kids trying to cross the street can’t even do it safely
I've got news for you, a lot of people aren't stopping for red lights - all over the place! As for the double parking in Inwood/WH, it's been that way for decades.
If NYPD bothered to try to enforce traffic laws, perhaps by writing tickets at intersections where the worst violations happen, people might be more cognizant of stopping at reds. Things are as bad as they are because NYPD refuses to do their jobs.
They only show up at wh after ppl get shot. Sometimes when the black cabs were getting murdered. Then once a year when the cops graduated they walk around on foot. Once a year.
If they showed up before someone gets shot they’d be called hyper aggressive for arresting people for crimes that were never committed.
And also; they routinely do show up “before” someone gets shot: the vast majority of their gun arrests are made without any shots fired on either side.
They won't, so any strategy needs to factor that in.
Unless I’m missing something, the cop has to stop the vehicle to write a summons.
But if the driver refuses to stop, they can’t be chased according to their rules.
So here’s the loophole to never get a moving violation infraction ticket in NYC: never stop for a cop.
Who did you vote for in your last DA election?
So you agree that cops are "punishing" the public by not doing their jobs because they disagree with who was elected DA?
Yeah same as the montefiore nurses.
Did any DA run on a platform of cracking down on double parking?
Were talking traffic laws, which DA has a role in with reckless driving, dwi, fake plates, etc
What role do they play? Please tell us how Alvin Bragg, who you seem to think is the only DA in New York City, stops NYPD from writing traffic tickets and enforcing basic non-criminal traffic laws
Gonzalez and Clark have been doing the same for years. Its all broken windows. Criminals know they can get away with low level felonies and vast major of misdemeanors. That translate to recklessness and lack of care.
DAs can't do anything if cops don't bother to go out and write tickets and arrest people. Besides, these traffic stops generally aren't criminal charges. The cops are just lazy and negligent.
Why would you do enforcement when it means nothing? Would someone make dinner for 10 if they knew only 3 were eating? No
Keep going in circles to find a way this isn't the fault of the NYPD.
These are traffic violations, not murders. You think Big Bad Bragg is doing BaiL ReFoRm for people who use fake plates? No. The cops refuse to enforce because most of them don't live here, drive in from elsewhere and have illegal plates on their own cars.
If you're so pro enforcement, then you believe in broken windows. Its all 1 big circle.
Do you even know what broken windows is/was? It wasn't referring to white folks in SUVs near police precincts in Brooklyn running red lights and using license plate covers.
Oh nice, racism
It is absolutely worse than it was pre-pandemic.
White people only started moving in 15 years or so ago so they don't know. I I forget, that's around the time Starbucks was built by the subway station
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I drive a semi thru the 5 boroughs, like full sized semi. I fucken get it, you need to double park your fucken box truck or whatever deliver to a store BUT CAN WE PICK ONE SIDE AT LEAST?
Like if 2 people are parked on the left why you gonna park askew on the fucken right so I gotta goddamn turn my truck into a piece of spaghetti to maneuver thru
Or double parking RIGHT IN FRONT OF AN OPEN PARKING SPACE!
Ugh, I used to drive box trucks and Uber drivers would do this all the time. Now I’m in LA where drivers are even more dangerous about ignoring lights and signals.
People just park in the middle of the street and go about their business, even when there’s a perfectly good place to pull in next to the curb right there.
i almost get hit by a car in a crosswalk, with a walk light, twice a week
more red light cameras.
I'm so fucking tired of watching semitrucks run all the reds near my local elementary school except the one that they know has a camera. put cameras on all of them.
There’s a new vice documentary on this. A lot of people obstruct their license plates, so even if there’s a camera or someone snaps a photo of someone running a red, they can’t track the car. And apparently off duty cops do this all the time, so when they’re on duty they don’t enforce it, when they see an obstructed plate. I was wondering why cars were so confidently honking at ME to get out of the crosswalk, when THEY had a red light. Unless there’s a police officer right there, no consequences. New Yorkers only care about themselves. We need to RFID their cars or something.
It’s insane here in kew gardens and forest hills. Over the holidays I saw a family member who is currently NYPD and they shared some context.
Apparently it’s a two factor problem.
The NYPD really doesn’t want to engage with low level stuff. Most officers are legit concerned that traffic stops and low level stuff will escalate, and they feel if it does escalate they won’t be backed up by management. Not saying it’s wrong or right, just that it’s where they’re at mentally now.
District attorneys can’t really prosecute vehicular stuff. It’s all about proving intent and the way legal statutes are written, it is next to impossible for da’s to prove intent when a car is involved. The example they used was this: someone runs a red light and crashes into a parent and stroller. First you gotta prove the car ran the light, second you gotta prove that there was intent to hit that person and their kid. Morally we know the driver is at fault for running a light, but legally it’s much murkier. The minute the driver says it was an accident, or I didn’t see them, or I thought the light was yellow, etc. it becomes legally challenging to prove much of anything. This is why da’s stay away from these. It harms their stats (I.e. winning cases).
This is why Di blasio wanted a task force outside the NYPD at DOT to investigate car crashes and issue recommendations to the da’s.
Lastly the culture around cars has changed. When I learned how to drive 20-22 years ago, my parents (boomers) were pretty adamant that hitting someone was morally wrong. It was tied to a values system. Nowadays most people relegate accidents to an insurance issue, not a moral one. Hit someone, too bad my insurance will cover it. At worst my premium goes up. That’s the new mentality and it leads to risky behaviors that border in antisocial behavior.
> District attorneys can’t really prosecute vehicular stuff. It’s all about proving intent and the way legal statutes are written, it is next to impossible for da’s to prove intent when a car is involved.
That's completely incorrect. No intent is required to be proved for most moving violations including red lights and speeding.
District Attorneys do not usually prosecute moving violations since the creation of the Traffic Violations Bureau (and its predecessor agencies) at least 40 years ago.
I’m talking about mowing someone down, not simply running a red light.
Driving recklessly is a crime and doesn’t require intent. You’re incorrect.
It would help if they gave everyone who runs a red light to a stop sign a juicy ticket. But they won’t even do that since 2020.
Yes the police do not want to low level stuff that is for those fake cops the traffic police which are useless and not real police officers anyway. Still Brooklyn people act like animals.
your family member who's a cop is either lying or stupid
They also need to crack down people in brooklyn with there motorcycles going brrrrrrrr on the pedestrian sidewalk. Walking on the sidewalk now feels more dangerous than on the road because of this
Start with people who don't put their headlights on when it's raining. Easy money for the city, there's one in every group at every light.
there are some on the road in pitch black 11pm at night and have no headlights on. So dumb
Brooklyn is big. You’re going to have to be more specific about which part of Brooklyn you’re talking about…
I’ve seen this type of behavior all around brooklyn
Any of the southern avenues in Brooklyn starting in Midwood.
That would require them leading by example lmao.
Driving on the wrong side of the road to beat traffic too
Queens is the best part of NYC,
It seems Brooklyn makes up their own laws that are different from the rest of NYC. Even people parked at hydrants.
Was in a car accident and called 911. They said police are not going to the scene of accidents anymore and just exchange insurance info with other party. Not sure what they do anymore
sad!!! well what happens when the driver leaves the scene of the accident it becomes a crime so crazy. Cops should come it is their job!!
Probably nothing. Too many other crimes to investigate. It is Wild West in NYC these days. Mayor Adams just focused on his image and next career move. NYC is over run with rats.
Newsflash buddy, that’s pretty much everywhere in NYC lol
That's gotten noticeably worse, as has completely blocking intersections. There needs to be a crackdown on both of these problems. The revenue from these tickets alone could probably bring down the national debt lolol.
"Over 130,000 moving violation summonses have been issued by police in Brooklyn, YTD November 2022."
This was a direct response to my exact post about how crazy it is in Brooklyn.
I started noticing this in earnest two months ago, red lights are now at best a stop sign, often just a yield, and sadly often completely ignored. I would say only 10% of drivers are behaving like they did 4 years ago.
Going through the 'bad parts' of Brooklyn traffic lights, even 20 years ago, was considered 'Optional'. Somehow, I doubt that has changed.
Red lights are optional in Brooklyn
Might as well convert them to yield signs at this point...
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Cops still on their hissy fit strike
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You think they’ll crack down on themselves lol
if people want to depend on cars the they should move to the suburbs, police could easily get their budget out of double parking and other traffic violations
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That would be quality-of-life enforcement which the voters of NY said they don’t want.
I am born and raised in NYC Queens so since I came back in 19 this city is not the city I once knew. Very sad!!!!!!I did not vote for low trash and low everything lifestyle that makes NYC a third world city.
People cried against Broken Windows because cops were wasting their time on minor crimes instead of “real crimes”. Now minor shit is on the rise and people are crying that police don’t enforce broken windows. It’s a pendulum. Things will get worse before they get better.
You have it backwards and apparently don't understand Broken Windows policing. It was proven that if you enforce minor infractions, the big ones just occur much less or not at all. That's the whole basis of the theory, and it worked extremely well. Nowhere was this more evident than with turnstile jumpers. People who committed serious crimes thought nothing of fare-beating, but law enforcement was there to arrest them. More often than not, these perps had laundry lists of priors. The "minor shit" you refer to will escalate to major shit if it's not stopped. If there were issues with Broken Windows, they could have been addressed. I think most of us would agree a white person who urinates in public should be treated the same way as a person of color committing the same violation.
The cops benefit from their being no road rules because they like to speed, run reds, not pay tolls, park illegally, etc.
Brooklyn probably has the highest rate of death by vehicular accidents and im sure its not not reported anywhere. I've seen enough videos of these accidents. Its crazy why they dont enforce the rules. They should put a ticketing system in place esp for that area.
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In my opinion 3rd avenue in BK is the worst for double parking.
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There is also a restaurant on 4th ave and 100th which uses I think bus stop and regular space - for valet, they basically double park lol.
It's insane. I've literally seen people do this shit right in front of cop cars. They do not give a shit and it makes my blood boil.
They completely stopped giving a fuck after the blm riots.
I've been seeing lot of road violations lately, but running red lights are the worse. I'm always cautious when driving through some major intersections as major accidents usually happens there.
People driving blinding lights / high beams on at night (NYPD used to pull cars with none OEM blinding projector lights in the past) now everyone just does it at full brightness. It's like a laser parade for people with astigmatism. Then there's driving in the emergency lane/shoulder during traffic. Have had close calls when trying to exit because some a-hole was driving pretty recklessly at that lane illegally.
Lately it feels like I have to be super defensive all the time now. Biggest problem is the lack rule enforcement just to deter the behavior. People tend to drive better when NYPD traffic cops are actually making stops and citations.
Drivers have gotten so bad since the pandemic. Running red lights, speeding, brights always on, stupid loud exhaust…then there’s the ebikes constantly speeding down sidewalks, blowing lights, driving the wrong on one way streets. Such a shit show right now.
This is why I decided to get an apartment in Queens. There’s a calmness that I can’t get in Brooklyn. I always feel on edge
Double parked cars and paper plates should be towed without hesitation too
Brooklyn, the tri-state area
There, I fixed it for you.
Traffic laws basically dont exist in the Bronx, its a complete free for all.
op is a troll and this is a bait post
sigh typical gentrifier. In my work as a community hip hop violence interruptor we find the concept of "rules" and "laws" as fundamentally a symptom of whiteness (oppression) and therefore problematic. This is a well established premise.
Calling for police action/enforcement under virtually all scenarios is deeply troubling. When you call for police enforcement of these racist and arbitrary prohibitions... what you are really doing... really what you are literally doing is holding racism's dick while he pees on your face and chuckles. That's what you do when you support fascism.
First, you must accept that this is Brooklyn, and we run red lights. I know in your cozy world of white heteronormativity "traffic safety", "respectful behavior" and being "considerate to others" are things the patriarchy has brainwashed you into valuing. But it's quite clear these are abstractions invented as tools of oppression. And let's call it what it is that's some white people shit. Straight up. I just pissed in my building's elevator WHILE MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH A LITTLE ABUELA. This is the jungle, square. Get fucking used to it. Marcy Projects representin'! Anyways.
Before we call for enforcement we must be cognizant of why these individuals are running the red light. In my doctoral thesis "Examining the 5 Stages of Hustlin: a Hip Hop Anthology'" I learned that many gang affiliated individuals of color, especially Crips, may find red lights triggering due to its association with their rival gang the Bloods. Their behavior could be explained and therefore excused by their previous trauma. These are all incredibly important considerations when we are evaluating policies.
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This isn't the complaint department.
looks at 90% of r/NYC content
But I came here for an argument.
Wait, I thought this is where we go for harassment? Am I in the wrong place?
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The double parking in Inwood/Washington Heights is unreal