Can I blame this on curbside dining sheds?

Praying for a swift recovery, luckily it seems no one got killed in this incident.

Hoping they got the Audi driver's credit card when filling tank or real plates at the gas station

Was the restaurant wearing dark clothing? And more importantly, was it wearing a helmet.

I wonder what they going to be charged with.

The hit-and-run driver should be investigated and arrested. Injuring 22 people is quite a count for a single incident.

But what happens to the liability insurance here?

22 hospital bills must blow through anyone's insurance coverage.

I imagine it would come from the drive and then come from the restaurant

You're kidding, right?

the car had the right of way! roads are for cars not for restaurants! /s

No, it's clearly the fault of those cyclists rolling through stop signs (not motorists rolling through stop signs though-- they are perfect angels who can do no wrong).

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There a NY state victims compensation fund that victims are entitled to claim

The restaurant jumped out of nowhere! It should have been wearing reflective clothing.

I’m not kidding. Some people get away with no punishment

Yeah, that's what I meant. This person will probably not even lose their license.

Let me guess, fake out of state paper plates? They never catching the driver and because this happened in inwood, it’ll be forgotten about and swept under the rug in less than a week. This city is headed into the trash.

They will be charged with one count of oopsie daisy

The hit and run driver is still on the lam

It’s not the Uber driver who is at fault. But Audi who rear ended him and fled the scene.

Well it was negligent of the diners to be eating without helmets merely 15 feet from a road where a driver could easily slam into the storefront. Clearly no way to prevent this except banning restaurants within 50 feet of streets

Imagine the public outcry if a single person injured 22 people on a subway

The three young girls are less than 10 years old :(

The progressives anti driver policies are ruining this city. Why are they placing obstacles like buildings on the side of a road?

this guy would sue the restaurant

they should really check the cameras on the GW bridge. I'd bet they could be seeing going back home to NJ

The amount of people making quirky and sarcastic comments is astonishing

It’s because everyone knows the police don’t do anything to punish drivers yet blame it on anything else they possibly can.

I got t-boned on my motorcycle by a driver making an illegal turn. They tried to drive off but I got in-front of their car and a bystander helped. Police came she straight up told them she made an illegal turn and hit me blaming me for being in her way. They didn’t give her a ticket or anything I had to practically beg them to write an incident report.

It was Bill the Butcher driving?

This gotta be a joke . Maybe if he would stayed on scene , but fleeing the scene is what makes it an actual felony instead of just a license suspension

It would have been national news easily

They are all luckily expected to survive , and one of them suffered a broken leg . I’m just glad that despite all the fuckery they are all alive and stable

Maybe if they are cops , I still had to go to court and get my points removed because I was doing 35 on a 25mph. So something like this has to be MUCH worse in terms of punishments unless they have connections of course

Were the patrons holding an orange flag?

Imagine if the pilot of an airplane injured 22 people, or a ship captain. They literally have teams of federal employees waiting to investigate such incidents.

Suspect will do time for this case but chances are the suspect is somebody with 10+ arrest and probably should not have been out in the streets to begin with.

Ban cars

Why Cars Rarely Crash into Buildings in the Netherlands

but let me tell ya those e-bikes sure are dangerous!!!

remember that councilwoman from Jersey City?

people don't do time for a hit and run in this city

or if it was someone on a bike (not sure it would even be possible, but still)

with fake plates

That's assuming they have valid plates and can be tracked down.

That’s an entire different story, but they better track it down for fucks sakes

People drive way too fucking fast and none of the tough-on-crime demons ever have anything to say about it, they’re convinced someone sleeping in a bench is the real threat

😆 his car posts are something special. Man is driving around with a covered plate.

That would involve trying to track it down.

In any event, it's entirely the same story, which is that the NYPD has virtually zero interest in investigating these types of crimes.

I can also guarantee you that nobody is going to do any time at all for this.

You are lucky they even showed up. A lot of times they don't even bother even if there are injuries.

I hate idiots that think that somehow making a better environment for cyclists and making the city more walkable somehow equates me to trying to ban cars

Which is exactly why it’s waaaaaay past time for free universal healthcare for every citizen.

Ya know, like it is in practically the entire rest of the world.

The power of insurance companies in this country is a blight on all of our lives.

Iirc wasn’t the takeaway that road design encouraging speed is the reason? Never could get behind this reason as plenty of car-into-building crashes involve drivers starting up their parked cars.

Looks kinds cheap tbh.

https://ovs.ny.gov/victim-compensation

Compensation Includes:

Expenses for medical or other related services that are not covered by other insurance or benefit programs

Lost earnings or loss of support up to $600 a week, not to exceed the maximum of $30,000

Lost savings of vulnerable elderly, or incompetent, or physically disabled persons, not to exceed the maximum of $30,000

Burial expenses up to $6,000 (for crimes committed on or after Nov. 1, 1996)

Occupational rehabilitation expenses

Counseling services to the victim of crime and to certain family members, in accordance with the OVS fee schedule, which is based on reasonable fee rates, depending on the credentials of the treating counselor

The cost of repair or replacement of essential personal property lost, damaged or destroyed as the direct result of a crime, up to $2,500. A maximum of $100 in cash can be replaced

Transportation expenses for necessary court appearances in connection with the prosecution of the crime or transportation for medical appointments necessary as a result of the crime

Employment-related transportation expenses, due to a victim’s personal physical injury as the result of a crime, up to $2,500

The cost of residing at or utilizing the services of a domestic violence shelter

Crime scene cleanup expenses and/or cost of securing a crime scene, up to $2,500

Attorney fees – up to a maximum of $1,000 – for representation before the agency and/or before an appellate court, upon judicial review of the victim’s OVS claim

Happy New Years everyone!!!

This comment is spot on.

You think this person has insurance? I’m skeptical.

it is better than nothing. hopefully catch audi driver and get more from the car insurance

Maybe we need to set up a bounty system so people can anonymously report hit and run drivers and collect 25% of the fine while the city collects the rest

You sounds like a victim of NYS government. We deserve better.

Lol that would require the NYPD to do actual police work first

“Tough on crime” politicians usually just use it as a dog whistle for “tough on brown people”

Cops actively refuse to do anything now because they got their fee fees hurt when people wanted bad cops held accountable. They’re really teaching us all a lesson for not licking enough boot.

take a look at other states victims compensation programs. ny is quite generous vs the norm

Better, yes. Generous, no.

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Ban cars though. Not everywhere, but in more places.

Queens DA let a lady walk last year, sure seemed like she road raged and killed a dude on a scooter while hitting a sidewalk shed full of people eating dinner.

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2021/11/28/the-other-victim-in-fatal-astoria-crash-sues-reckless-driver-whom-da-katz-exonerated/

Crazy drivers get off with no charges a lot.

Downgraded from “Did I dooo thaaat?”

In civilized countries, head-in diagonal parking is rarer and bollards or guardrails protecting sidewalks are more common.

NYC knows how to block cars when the DOT really cares about it effectively. For example, the Manhattan Bridge bike path, or the Hudson Greenway, or Ground Zero.

But in Paris and Tokyo, for example, there are guardrails or bollards along many, many sidewalks, not just on huge boulevards or in tourist areas.

What this should tell us is that the DOT doesn't care as much as it should about protecting pedestrians. We have the most pedestrians per square mile in this hemisphere, and the city is barely even trying.

Dark humor is an essential coping mechanism in a dystopia.

even if the audi driver don't or cant be found, they can still make some claim off the other driver that's paid by the uninsured motorist fund or in some cases the victims has some kind of insurance coverage themselves.

was down broadway and saw/heard the lights from ems and police pulling up- i wish they gave us plates for the audi, but holy shit there are so many reckless drivers in this area. the other day my mirror got knocked in the other direction; was parked on 213 and so did everyone else’s on the block

Definitely. The restaurant probably has insurance as well. The original comment seemed to be talking about the Audi driver and I wouldn’t count on anything there, even if he could be located.

And that incident greatly varies from this incident.

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Some cases to keep on eye on as they are still on going.

D.A. Bragg Announces Manslaughter Charges in Fatal Hit And Run

Court case ongoing with suspect still in jail due to bail being denied.

3 arrested in New York City hit and run with stolen catalytic converters; victim ID'd

Only the driver was given bail, which was paid, and charge in regards to the fetal hit and run. The passengers in the vehicle were only charge with the theft of the converters and released recognizance. Court case for all three is still ongoing.

Man arrested on murder charges in Brooklyn hit-and-run crash that left grandma dead, boy hurt.

Court case ongoing with suspect still in jail due to bail being denied.

Driver charged in NYC hit-and-run that left innocent bystander dead

Court case ongoing with suspect still in jail due to bail being denied.

NYPD arrests man for hit-and-run death of 5-year-old in Queens

Court case ongoing. Suspect was given 100K bail/bond, which was paid.

Suspected NYC hit-and-run driver who struck 3, including toddler, facing 17 charges

Court case ongoing. Suspect was given $1 million bond/$500K, which was posted.

NYC moped driver sentenced in hit-and-run death of ‘Gone Girl’ actress Lisa Banes

Suspect sentenced

QUEENS MAN SENTENCED TO PRISON FOR MANSLAUGHTER IN HIGH-SPEED HIT AND RUN THAT KILLED 56-YEAR-OLD WORKER

Suspect sentenced

I know very few hit and runs get investigated and as far as I know the issue is more on the investigative (or the lack there-off) side. But now that criticism is morphing into “even those arrested” don’t do anytime. Which yeah, am sure they are cases where the person possibly got of with just probation. Pretty sure you have cases in mind for you to believe that nobody does time for hit and runs, but am going to go out on a limb and say whatever case you have in mind varies greatly to an incident involving 20+ people injured.

Granted most of the cases I linked involve fatalities. But not much precedent in NYC in regards to hit and runs in which 20+ people are injured. I can only think of two. That guy who rammed people in Times Square and was found to be unfit for court and is now confined to a nuthouse. And the U-haul truck incident, which was a terror attack.

The Audi likely has fake plates or no plates. That could be the case anywhere, but especially in Inwood.

The NYPD and other area law enforcement agencies have stopped enforcing license plate violations because they themselves obscure the plates on their personal vehicles. It's a downward spiral.

Agreed, yes.

But also minimum 100/500/100 insurance policy limits. Whatever single-payer there is can then go after the car insurance carriers in subrogation. Drivers should pay for the increased danger their 4000+ pound hunks of metal do to society — especially when they’re designed to easily drive over minor obstacles such as curbs and pedestrians.

for sure , i’ve seen it all, even temp plate dealings on the corner in inwood looking like drug dealings. but i wish there was some other identifiers or any description of the driver because most white audi sedan drivers (especially in the area) are fairly reckless.

Police report: 22 people accidentally made contact with SUV near restaurant.

It's not free and I think it's a bad way to describe it. It's funded by tax dollars, which means everyone pays into it and everyone benefits from it.

When you say “stopped enforcement” was does that mean?

How many obstructed plate summonses do you think have been issued? Do you think more have been issued since last year?

I had a weird guy yell at me on the subway once, and a car almost hit me on my bike yesterday so let me tell you why my fear of homeless people is more important than me potentially dying.

Or if 22 people were shot by a single person.

Pesky bikes killing again

Holy shit, that guy is a legit moron. Am deeply concerned he is allowed behind the wheel of a car.

I think 0 obstructed plate summonses have been issued to cops, officer. I think since summer 2020, dozens of my fake/no plate 311 cases and emails to my precinct NCOs have been laughed away.

I think the NYPD don't do shit since summer 2020.

Of course it’s an Audi driver

Same as private insurance. We pay in to a plan and only use it when we need it…

Edit: to be clear I’m totally in favor of universal healthcare. Just pointing out that we already pay a ton. I wouldn’t care if it was my tax dollars and would actually be thrilled if it wasn’t tied to my job.

Just think about how much of your insurance payments are just skimmed off as "shareholder value" and executive pay.

Say her name! Amy DeGise. Daughter of Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise.

She's still out there on the roads. Daddy protected her.

Lmfao how are people genuinely that stupid...

Did you even read the story?

The subway shooter was just charged as a terrorist and now that you mention it I don’t see why this should be any different. Hell the subway shooter actually injured less people.

Indeed. In a normal city shit like this would never be possible. Here, just a matter of time. All that’s left is jokes :(

Fleeing the scene is somehow worse than injuring 22 people?

Even if they get the plates, find the car, and confront the owner, the owner can just say that they weren't the person driving at the time. And there's the end of the investigation.

I’m all for more traffic enforcement since it does save lives. But the people that tend to drive like assholes, ignore traffic laws and injure people are also the people that flee the police. But chasing people is dangerous. So, who stops for the police? Normal law abiding citizens. Normally, this wouldn’t be a problem if there were like consequences to bad behavior when one of these assholes is caught doing something, but well there aren’t. So here we are.

> The hit-and-run driver should be investigated and arrested.

As opposed to what?

We need an assault suv ban asap!

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I don’t think you can get away that easily

No, but fleeing the scene makes you guilty by default. Instead of claiming that you just had an accident

Literally all hit and run drivers should be investigated and arrested. It’s illegal to leave the scene of a crash.

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Yea not free but if we stop paying rates that support entire industries profiting off peoples sickness, it would probably end up saving tax money and boosting the economy.. it might even be better than free.

If you have universal healthcare there will be no insurance policy limits to worry about. So…

Private insurance plans and payments are the driving force behind everything. Who sets prices of the services you receive or supplies you use during your hospital visit? The hospital administration, right? Wrong. Insurance companies set the prices. And they set the prices so high because every 1 single private insurance patient that comes through the hospital pays for 3-4 Medicaid or Medicare patients that receive the same services. So, in essence, not only are you paying into a plan that’s used only when needed, but when you do need it you are ending up paying not only for your treatment, but also footing the bill for others. Don’t believe me? Look it up.

It won't matter. Alvin "I love Trump" Bragg won't charge the driver. Fuck SUVs.

Some people are so brainwashed that they can't wrap their head around the idea that your taxes would need to go up. Even if it's significantly LESS than the premium they pay now, to a private company for fewer services and high copays and deductibles.

Portability is another problem. You lose your job, you lose your coverage unless you pay COBRA rates.

It's a goddamned mess, and I'm tired of being bled dry.

Because this was an accident and not on purpose?

Big surprise, hes a ride share driver. Lets fucking bad these morons already

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"free"

The guy hit and run tho…

Yes, so a deliberate crime - like the subway shooter.

I think we’ve found peak carbrain.

Unfortunately from his post history, he lives in buffalo, sounds about par for the course for upstate NY.

Must be cool to jump into a conversation not understanding how context works and then saying the stupidest possible thing. Are you this pathetic off the internet too?

knowing its inwood too, they were prob drunk driving. people in the heights and inwood are lawless fucking drivers.

people are going to tell you "it isn't free" bla bla.
the public expenditure in the US (money from taxes) is ~$1.5 Trillion
without adding one red cent, (just by eliminating insurance companies and price gouging) this should be enough to cover everyone at european levels.

this will never happen because without it, the private expenditure is another 1.5 TN.

so without adding 1 cent to taxes, you could save everyone a lot of money AND cover everyone.

but it is free, because currently the public expendture on health is 1.5 Tn $.
which is ~5000 per person per year.

enough to cover everyone (if you weed out the insurance companies, and the price gouging)

It has a cost, that cost is paid for by tax dollars, taxes are paid by all citizens in one way or another.

That's not what free means.

Yeah I have to agree. "Universal" is good and accurate, but "free" is a disingenuous word that only opens the door to tangential criticisms and distractions. It even sounds dishonest to someone hearing it with a critical ear. Imagine if "social security" was instead referred to as "free security" and that's how we promoted it?

They'd be on the front page of the NY Post for months. They'd have a new pun headline for it every day.

yes, but since the amount currently paid is enough to cover everyone, there would be no additional charge.
in fact most people might be able to negotiate a pay raise if the employers are about to save 1.5 TN in health insurance coverage

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so not "free", but rather
you are already paying for it, just not getting it

Exactly my point.

This is why enforcement isn't the most effective thing we can do to save more lives. Assholes are pretty evenly distributed in populations around the world, but many of our peer countries have used a combination of design and regulation to bring car crash deaths way down. To be clear, assholes who break the law and hurt or kill people need to pay. But if the goal is saving lives, of the several things that need to be done toward that goal, enforcement isn't the biggest or most effective piece.

Because carbrained idiots see anyone questioning cars as a personal attack on their lifestyle and freedom.

I'm surprised it wasn't nypd that did this, given their stellar driving record

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Well that answers that 🤣

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> I think 0 obstructed plate summonses have been issued to cops

Truly masterful usage of verbiage to avoid answering the question. Did you learn that in English 101?

> I think the NYPD don't do shit since summer 2020.

You should know that police are not the solution to crime. Solving crime requires addressing its root causes by providing things like housing opportunities and social services to those who find themselves committing crime. In this case, we can address the root causes by giving these benefits and services to people engaging in license plate obfuscation.

No, I learned on the streets, foo'

... and I did answer the question, didn't I?