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Miser t1_j5z8s2e wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in 18 Kids Hurt, 1 Critically, After Fire at Queens Day Care Held in Home Basement: FDNY by King-of-New-York

It's also always important to remember that the number one killer of kids, by far, is cars, not ebikes. Cars. There are now an estimated 1.6 million people riding micromobility in NYC. Those people have saved TONS of children's lives because some of those trips would have been taken by cars, which again are the #1 killer of children.

Do we need better regulations on batteries so that the extremely rare fire in cheap vehicles can be eliminated like anything else that uses lithium ion batteries, of course. But we should be very skeptical of anyone trying to hurt the adoption of micromobility in general, especially if they are hiding behind an argument for safety. They are either lying or seriously misinformed

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Least-Cry-7317 t1_j5zdctz wrote

They’re not extremely rare. There was something like 1600 fires in nyc last year and over 200 involved lithium ion batteries. It should be illegal to own any lithium ion battery product that does not have the UL standard sticker.

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Miser t1_j5zdsf1 wrote

Do you know how many lithium ion devices there are in this city? 200 fires for that many devices is, in fact, very rare. I don't think anyone would disagree that we should have better certifications and enforcement on the cheap shit, but let's keep things in perspective

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Least-Cry-7317 t1_j5zfato wrote

200 extra preventable fires caused by these batteries isn’t rare. The numbers will go up until something is done.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j5zlrab wrote

Do you know how many cars there are in this city? 16 dead kids for that many cars is, in fact, very rare. Let's keep things in perspective.

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Miser t1_j5zmpni wrote

"An entire kindergarten class of kids being run over, crushed brutally to death every single year in one city alone is really not that much if you think about it." Oh great, thanks Elizabeth Cooper. You're totally not a psychopath.

There are also over 100,000 people sent to the hospital every year in NYC alone by cars that don't die, many of which are also kids. I'm glad none of this bothers you however.

Bikes, including ebikes, save lives. They save kids from being maimed and killed. This is not arguable and you are a sick person if you even try

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ZA44 t1_j5zv6sb wrote

Salivating over run over kids just so you can push your micromobility movement. Totally cool.

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[deleted] t1_j5zbae3 wrote

^ I agree! It doesn't have to be a "pick your poison" type of scenario. There should definitly be some type of enforcement on cheap batteries, but the fact that cars are overtaking the streets is horrible. Not saying that I don't own a car myself, but I rarely ever use it in case of extreme weather. 95% of the time it's me and my trusty Super 73 Lol.

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