Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j0h2117 wrote
Reply to comment by Guypussy in State Orders NYC To Drop Foie Gras Sales Ban, Says Ban Violates NY Agricultural Law by Gato1980
Nothing pairs better with red wine and a good book like the meat of a tortured animal
drpvn t1_j0h3rqg wrote
Like some pork ribs at Pig Beach.
mamiyaRZ67 t1_j0h7btg wrote
Or any halal butcher. Shocking that NYC won't ban halal butchered meat, which prohibits stunning or sedation of the animal (the animal's throat must be slit while conscious).
Especially considering that gavage isn't in any way painful for birds, this seems like a double standard...đ¤ˇââď¸
Lost_sidhe t1_j0hdugy wrote
it is a double standard, but probably not pursued because of cultural/racial issues attached to halal that foie gras doesn't have. I wouldn't eat halal, but religion is a helluva drug, Peter.
mncs t1_j0hn09v wrote
This is also true of kosher slaughter laws. The idea is actually that it's less suffering for the animal as opposed to hunting in the wild where you might shoot or spear the animal and it's in pain. It's not how I would want to go out personally, but do understand that there are reasons why people believe the things they do.
srpokemon t1_j0hsl6v wrote
i think it might be unconstitutional to make that illegal, even though i think it should be
schwab002 t1_j0hdre3 wrote
Pennwisedom t1_j0hxu3m wrote
Truly an institution, closing after 8 whole years. Maybe I just pass it by at the wrong time, but the one in Astoria never seems that full to me.
RW3Bro t1_j0hlegh wrote
Yes, but at least this South Brooklyn treasure will be replaced by $3,500/mo studios made of particleboard and cheap veneers to be rented to Ohioans who will leave the city within five years of moving here. And maybe the developers will even give us a Walgreens or Blank Street!
ChrisFromLongIsland t1_j0hu7rl wrote
Thanks for gatekeeping someone's experience of only wanting to be in NYC for a few years.
Please tell me how the quintessential NYC person should live. Do I have to be born there. If my parents and grandparents were am I out if luck? What are the acceptable places to move from? What are the acceptable jobs or stores to shop at? Do I have to have a specific political viewpoint? Please tell me what it needs to be to be a real person from NYC. What neighborhood should I live in. Also I don't want to be too rich or successful and shunned so what income should I have?
I don't want to be looked at with distain for coming from the wrong place and paying too much for the wrong apartment in the wrong neighborhood.
RW3Bro t1_j0i7flg wrote
My issue isnât with the Midwesterners who want to move to one of the crown jewels of humanity. As long as NYC is what it is, that demand will always exist on an enormous scale.
My issue is the developers that would in an instant, no matter the objections of the community and their elected representatives, build over everything that makes this city great and slap up yet another cheaply-constructed building if itâd make them a quick buck.
Tearing down neighborhoods to put up grossly overpriced gentrification buildings with a small allocation for âaffordableâ housing will never put a dent in this cityâs housing supply-demand dynamic, much in the same way that building another lane on the highway doesnât reduce traffic.
So yeah, I donât blame the people who want to move here, I blame the developers whoâve bribed our past two mayors to the point of wholly owning them and shown nothing but scorn for the people who actually already live in Brooklyn, Harlem, and Queens.
ChrisFromLongIsland t1_j0izxe5 wrote
I do appreciate your detailed response.
I don't really agree with it. Very little had been built over the past 30 years especially when you compare it to the period from 1800 to about 1950. In the 90s and early 2000 most of the development was rehabbing what was burnt out or run down from the decay of the 70s and 80s.
It sounds like you want to basically stop all development. If you stop development prices will go no where but up. It's an issue the country has been grappling with amd especially CA and the northeast for 40 years. Do we move past what has been built and build up or keep the neighborhoods as they are. By and large they have been left alone but prices have zoomed higher.
schwab002 t1_j0i0kyz wrote
I'm hoping another beer garden type place will take over.
RW3Bro t1_j0i3hwf wrote
That could be nice, but Iâm not sure hanging out directly on the Gowanus Canal would be too pleasant without the smell of smoked meats diluting the canal stench.
BradBradMaddoxMaddox t1_j0h73p4 wrote
No such thing as a non-tortured animal that's being eaten. Watch Dominion if you have any doubts.
LittleKitty235 t1_j0hq1sz wrote
Wild game that is hunted for meat would be an exception.
upnflames t1_j0hian8 wrote
True. So damn delicious. Add a little cheese and jam...excellent.
CasinoMagic t1_j0ihbjh wrote
depends on the meat
with foie gras, you'd want a dry, or moderately sweet white wine
although some people will go super sweet
PenguinBlubber t1_j0j22ln wrote
Foie gras actually pairs best with a sauternes
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