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Ok-Hunt6574 t1_j07fd1j wrote

Shocking. I am sure everyone who backed up their claims will also be charged. /s

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mowotlarx t1_j097ux5 wrote

Our libraries are about to run out of funding to keep normal hours and we are spending hundreds of millions annually just on settlements from NYPD misconduct, not even mentioning the lives they ruin. Why do we live this way.

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Grass8989 t1_j07ilux wrote

“Kuyateh spent two weeks in jail before getting out on bail. He refused a plea deal and sued the city after his charges were dropped, winning a $326,000 settlement.”

Mans got a good lawyer and justice was served. Two weeks in jail for 326k and all charges dropped.

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Rottimer t1_j0bteyo wrote

I’m guessing he would have preferred to just get home that day. At least 1/3 of that money went to his lawyer. And I’d bet good money he’s had a hell of a time holding down a decent job between his record, depositions, and court appearances.

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Speedyx t1_j07lrn5 wrote

Honestly i think knowing the outcome most people would take that trade off anyday.

But once again it comes down to the quality of police officers we are hiring and training. We need higher standards for them but the city continues to lower them. One way to get better police officers and retain them is by paying them more. But most people on reddit already think they make too much, so its going to be an endless loop of dealing with situations like this.

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mowotlarx t1_j098tiw wrote

Cops get a double salary pay bump in just 5 years and easily make 6 figures not long after that (earlier if they choose to milk OT). They are paid better and have better benefits than almost any other city worker. We pay them well and still scrape the bottom of the barrel and refuse to raise our standards or hold them accountable. The Old Boys Club of the NYPD is why they are the way they are, not pay.

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Rottimer t1_j0buhay wrote

And they make far less than the police officers in the surrounding counties.

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mowotlarx t1_j0bz7h6 wrote

If that's true, those cops in surrounding counties are overpaid and their local governments should do some serious investigation.

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Grass8989 t1_j07m7js wrote

Most people on Reddit think “abolishing the police” would realistically happen too.

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Designer_Curve t1_j07z9yz wrote

You’ve clearly never feared for you life at the hands of strangers with guns and been violently abused in that scenario before if you think any one would ever put a price on that trauma.

Police officers make 6 figures in NYC.

Edit: (original post incorrectly stated starting pay) https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/careers/police-officers/po-benefits.page

They start at 42 and that doubles after 5 years with additional benefits for prior military service.

The problem is not pay, it is a good career option for not needing a 4 year degree. It is qualification, training, and standard. Why can’t we train police officers to also be social workers? The public would support them making even more if they did that. It’s because there is a culture problem. It is ‘us vs them’ and incredibly dogmatic and heterogenous. Good cops leave because the bad cops are protected. Would you keep showing up to your job if it was an incredibly toxic environment with little to no training or support for you to do what you actually signed up to do? The good cops give up, and it has nothing to do with pay. Abolishing and starting from scratch would be the best solution in any scenario. But everyone knows if the cops got fired they would just become the mob in a more dangerous way than they are now. Whatever the solution is, it needs to be radical. This is not a, solve from within possible fix.

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Speedyx t1_j0801o6 wrote

Well first off your numbers are wrong at least here in nyc. A cop starts here at 42k and goes to 85k after 5 years. They make six figures with overtime. And the idea of abolishing it and starting over isn't even realistic. You need to make changes now when it comes to standards and unfortunately seeing those changes will take some time to see.

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Designer_Curve t1_j083v98 wrote

Updated post to correct starting salary.

The problem? We’ll be dead before we see those changes. Just like the civil rights activists of 50 years ago.

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hortence1234 t1_j0e53ec wrote

Cops should not train to be social workers... let social workers, you know, operate in that capacity

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j07dk3p wrote

Didn't that NYPD evidence depot go up in smoke yesterday?

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Grass8989 t1_j07ieyp wrote

Yea I don’t think they were storing evidence against themselves there.

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newestindustry t1_j07l9vs wrote

I wouldn’t put anything past the criminal masterminds who say “we have to find something, you know what I mean?” into their own body camera before planting evidence.

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j07k2dr wrote

I mean it’s baseless conspiracy, but they could be trying to burn tainted evidence.

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Designer_Curve t1_j07ym4w wrote

If you look at the Google reviews on local precincts in the city, they are filled with detailed accounts of this happening that name the officers involved and how and why they did it. Plainly there for anyone to see and judge for themselves if it’s true.

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