oyoshimaru t1_j1xwri7 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:14 AM

Reply to comment by simeonbachos in MTA surpasses 1 billion subway riders in 2022, a first in Covid era by geoxol

well there this article that states the estimates 500 million dollar loss to fare evaders. at 2.75 that puts it at around 181M in evaders per year.

or you know just living here.

https://www.police1.com/transit-police/articles/mta-nypd-struggle-to-rein-in-rising-fare-evasion-on-nyc-buses-subways-JuKcScLkr42Ml6jo/

simeonbachos t1_j1xwxus wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:15 AM

> bus and subway

oyoshimaru t1_j1xx57i wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:17 AM

well theres this article about the subway estimates at 9.8%. what exactly is your argument? do you not ride the subway?

https://nypost.com/2022/05/22/mta-losing-119m-and-counting-to-fare-evasion-officials-say/

edit: wrong link

simeonbachos t1_j1xxeof wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:20 AM

That’s the same article

oyoshimaru t1_j1xxgup wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:21 AM

updated link.

simeonbachos t1_j1xxnkl wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:22 AM

That 9.8% of riders report beating a fare doesn’t mean that 1 in 100 rides out of a billion are stolen. That’s my argument

oyoshimaru t1_j1xxwf7 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:25 AM

thats exactly what it means, that there are 98 million rides stolen out of every 1 billion…

simeonbachos t1_j1xxyfz wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:25 AM

No, riders aren’t rides. I’m one rider, I’m how many rides in a year?

oyoshimaru t1_j1xymwp wrote on December 28, 2022 at 5:32 AM

not sure how to make it clearer for you. MTA claimed 62M in subway losses in 1 Quarter of the year. 248M annualized, thats 90M rides in 2021, that apparently had less than. 1B rides, thats higher than 9% of rides.

if you rode the subway youd know how common fare evasion is…