simeonbachos t1_j1wybyf wrote
Reply to comment by suitcase88 in MTA surpasses 1 billion subway riders in 2022, a first in Covid era by geoxol
Technically yes, but I’m fairly sure the number of skipped fares would not increase this figure to 1.01b. You’d need a few more decimal places to even see it
oyoshimaru t1_j1xw4ha wrote
I’d argue more than 1 in 100 rides is a jumped fare.
Shreddersaurusrex t1_j1xxclu wrote
Agreed
simeonbachos t1_j1xw9c9 wrote
On what grounds
Shreddersaurusrex t1_j1xxd9v wrote
On the Polo Grounds
oyoshimaru t1_j1xwri7 wrote
well there this article that states the estimates 500 million dollar loss to fare evaders. at 2.75 that puts it at around 181M in evaders per year.
or you know just living here.
simeonbachos t1_j1xwxus wrote
> bus and subway
oyoshimaru t1_j1xx57i wrote
well theres this article about the subway estimates at 9.8%. what exactly is your argument? do you not ride the subway?
https://nypost.com/2022/05/22/mta-losing-119m-and-counting-to-fare-evasion-officials-say/
edit: wrong link
simeonbachos t1_j1xxeof wrote
That’s the same article
oyoshimaru t1_j1xxgup wrote
updated link.
simeonbachos t1_j1xxnkl wrote
That 9.8% of riders report beating a fare doesn’t mean that 1 in 100 rides out of a billion are stolen. That’s my argument
oyoshimaru t1_j1xxwf7 wrote
thats exactly what it means, that there are 98 million rides stolen out of every 1 billion…
simeonbachos t1_j1xxyfz wrote
No, riders aren’t rides. I’m one rider, I’m how many rides in a year?
oyoshimaru t1_j1xymwp wrote
not sure how to make it clearer for you. MTA claimed 62M in subway losses in 1 Quarter of the year. 248M annualized, thats 90M rides in 2021, that apparently had less than. 1B rides, thats higher than 9% of rides.
if you rode the subway youd know how common fare evasion is…
Johnnadawearsglasses t1_j203hcn wrote
That isn't vaguely true on any line I take. Look at turnstiles sometimes for ten minutes.
Or just go to a Yankees game sometime and take the 4 home. Lol
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