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suitcase88 t1_j1wh2qi wrote

It would be a higher number if fare jumpers were included.

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simeonbachos t1_j1wybyf wrote

Technically yes, but I’m fairly sure the number of skipped fares would not increase this figure to 1.01b. You’d need a few more decimal places to even see it

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xw4ha wrote

I’d argue more than 1 in 100 rides is a jumped fare.

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simeonbachos t1_j1xw9c9 wrote

On what grounds

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xwri7 wrote

well there this article that states the estimates 500 million dollar loss to fare evaders. at 2.75 that puts it at around 181M in evaders per year.

or you know just living here.

https://www.police1.com/transit-police/articles/mta-nypd-struggle-to-rein-in-rising-fare-evasion-on-nyc-buses-subways-JuKcScLkr42Ml6jo/

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simeonbachos t1_j1xwxus wrote

> bus and subway

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xx57i wrote

well theres this article about the subway estimates at 9.8%. what exactly is your argument? do you not ride the subway?

https://nypost.com/2022/05/22/mta-losing-119m-and-counting-to-fare-evasion-officials-say/

edit: wrong link

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simeonbachos t1_j1xxnkl wrote

That 9.8% of riders report beating a fare doesn’t mean that 1 in 100 rides out of a billion are stolen. That’s my argument

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xxwf7 wrote

thats exactly what it means, that there are 98 million rides stolen out of every 1 billion…

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simeonbachos t1_j1xxyfz wrote

No, riders aren’t rides. I’m one rider, I’m how many rides in a year?

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xymwp wrote

not sure how to make it clearer for you. MTA claimed 62M in subway losses in 1 Quarter of the year. 248M annualized, thats 90M rides in 2021, that apparently had less than. 1B rides, thats higher than 9% of rides.

if you rode the subway youd know how common fare evasion is…

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Johnnadawearsglasses t1_j203hcn wrote

That isn't vaguely true on any line I take. Look at turnstiles sometimes for ten minutes.

Or just go to a Yankees game sometime and take the 4 home. Lol

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dark10043 t1_j1zybu1 wrote

Random people ask to open the door for them as well. I give them a middle finger as we should all.

pay the damn $2.75 and if u can't afford it, go walk.

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