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IRequirePants t1_j1agcm7 wrote

On the one hand, it isn't the Democrats' fault that Santos is a lying piece of shit. On the other-hand, the fact that the state party couldn't find this blatant shit is political malpractice. Were they even trying to win?

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[deleted] t1_j1aiyjs wrote

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IRequirePants t1_j1anwnb wrote

Democrats aren't responsible for Santos. But they are responsible for Zimmerman. Investigating your opponent for oppo-research is super basic in elections. State party needs to figure out where they fucked up.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j1aorey wrote

Zimmerman brought it up during the campaign.

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IRequirePants t1_j1ap5qt wrote

The divorce as oppo-research only really works in the context of everything else being a lie. Gay men have been married to women before. If Zimmerman brought up the other lies, do you have a link? Because this week or so is really the first I am hearing of Santos lying about a charity, about where he worked, and about his Jewish ancestry.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j1aqhql wrote

Yeah no shit, because this is the first time the media actually picked up the story.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/12/house-republicans-george-santos-democrats-ethics/amp

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IRequirePants t1_j1aui4y wrote

From the article:

>The document does, however, list Santos’s educational and professional claims without question. The bulk of the 87-page research document leans into Santos’s ties to Trump and his antiabortion stance.

DCCC oppo-research focused on Trump ties and the fake charity, instead of deep-diving his background.

You claim that the media didn't cover it, but the DCCC research didn't cover it either. Which is entirely the point.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j1b11sg wrote

I never said the DCCC covered it, I said his opponent covered it, but the media ignored it.

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IRequirePants t1_j1b2wit wrote

> I never said the DCCC covered it, I said his opponent covered i

You haven't shown that though... The only oppo-report is DCCC's, unless you have another?

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j1bbpm5 wrote

As I said before, it’s hard to prove that, because the Zimmerman campaigns complaints were ignored in favor of more crime reporting which played into Santos’ hands.

What oppo there was was covered by small independent news stations

https://www.theleaderonline.com/single-post/santos-filings-now-claim-net-worth-of-11-million

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IRequirePants t1_j1bdrqq wrote

>As I said before, it’s hard to prove that, because the Zimmerman campaigns complaints were ignored in favor of more crime reporting which played into Santos’ hands.

This is bullshit and you know it. Campaigns have press releases or statements on their website. This stuff is independent of press coverage.

The oppo presented was about Santos's wealth (which they presented as sketchy but without real evidence of wrongdoing ) and phony charity. Nothing about lying about his ancestry, his employment, or his education.

DCCC and Zimmerman focused more on his anti-abortion views and connection with Trump.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j1bete0 wrote

> The oppo presented was about Santos's wealth (which they presented as sketchy but without real evidence of wrongdoing ) and phony charity.

But it follows the pattern that he’s exaggerated every part of his life and image.

If the media had done its job, it would have followed up on that by pulling on the thread.

> DCCC and Zimmerman focused more on his anti-abortion views and connection with Trump.

To quote a stupid man, that’s bulls hit and you know it.

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IRequirePants t1_j1apobm wrote

>The state republican party needs to deal with its dishonesty and corruption problem. Surely that's the state party you're referring to.

The state Republican party is a burning trash fire and has been for at least a decade. Losing to a burning trash fire should spark introspection.

>Zimmerman pointed out during the campaign that Santos was sketchy.

Do you have a link for Zimmerman calling out specific lies?

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j1ax2vj wrote

>Investigating your opponent for oppo-research is super basic in elections.

They did.

But the media was too busy trying to push their talking points on crimes, and didn't take the stories.

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archiotterpup t1_j1bhts5 wrote

LOL. I think it's funny you think Republicans have the principles to take responsibility for their own party. Party politics are scourge.

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