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atari_Pro t1_izf8lym wrote

Reply to comment by Tokyocheesesteak in New York’s ‘zombie’ office towers teeter as interest rates rise by rootbeer_racinette

This is already happening. There’s literally a Whole Foods in Manhattan West. Not such a dump like it was just a few years ago.

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drpvn t1_izfc159 wrote

Hudson Yards is kind of its own thing. Wasn’t so much that it was a “dump” before—there was nothing there at all.

I’m not a Hudson Yards fan generally but I’m glad it’s there. 10 years ago I never would have imagined the idea of a pleasant stroll down 34th over to shop at a Whole Foods a couple blocks from a tony waterfront.

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Tokyocheesesteak t1_izfj6lo wrote

One of the things that makes neighborhoods great is their adjacency to other great, or at least functional, neighborhoods. People may think what they will about Hudson Yards, but, if nothing else, it is hard to deny that it is a functional, if controversial, urban neighborhood, which replaced a whole lot of nothing (neighborhood-wise) and thus vastly improved the appeal of the adjacent Penn Station and Garment District areas.

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drpvn t1_izfp9wz wrote

I think that’s largely true, but there is another side unfortunately. Which is a lot of the homeless and drug scene that used to exist out there has been pushed inward, basically because police and private security won’t tolerate it happening in the new fanciness of Hudson Yards. Buses, too—last ten years, a lot of “commuter buses” that used to stop on the west side have moved in east of 8th avenue, which is insane given the congestion already in that area.

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