I hope they make more dancing TikTok videos to tell us how much of a hero they are

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Its been really tough for them. Hoping the hospitals cave asap

So you go take care of 3 or 4 patients in the ICU when clinical standards and the state staffing law say you should have 2. Probably a cop or something used to playing Candy Crush for 60% of your day...you wouldn't make it through a single shift as a CNA let alone an RN.

Hospitals in New York run as legal monopolies/duopolies (except in Manhattan where you have 3 main health systems to choose from.) They have been extorting 12-15% annual increases from insurance company payors for years now. At the same time they make every nurse do the job of 1 1/2 to 2 nurses every day. And while the C suite admins (who make millions) were running off to Florida during the height of Covid in early 2020...the nurses that stuck around to save lives are being asked to take cuts to their health care plans.

NYC RNs deserve at least a 10% raise or they should walk the hell out.

Youre not allowed to make those jokes here. Only cops being on their phones and playing candy crush jokes.

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For the love of god go outside

Good for them. Would be great if physicians could follow suit. Not that it will change anything

One comment in a Reddit post equals “widely known”? Fuck off.

You linked to a reddit comment dude. There's still time to delete this

How do you take comments from anonymous redditors, and attribute their anecdotal experiences as doctors-in-training to the entire profession of NYC nurses, which makes up thousands of people?

If I took the same thread of comments and concluded that NYC residents and fellows are notoriously unprofessional with terrible bedside manner and poor interpersonal skills, would that become a "widely known" fact?

How about clinical lab technologists the ones who actually run all the COVID tests while being one of the least known licensed medical professionals in NY?

How about clinical social workers who were discharging and navigating patients to ensure they were enough beds and space for ICU patients?

How about me for setting up covid testing for PCR and ELISA platforms throughout the nation including NY and NJ area which had me fly 300 times since March 2020 and drive around 70K miles.

Everyone has a story of why they deserve more in the healthcare field. If you want more $$$, then go work in finance. Personally, I always rolled my eyes when nurses complain because they get paid quite well for the credentials needed to be a Nurse with simply a BS, a licensure exam, and their coursework. There are a number of medical professionals that have much more intensive course loads, licensure, or advanced education needed that pays below them.

Maybe you forgot how wretched the situation was during the first wave of COVID.

If nurses who had to deal with people gagging to death on ventilators and seeing bodies stacked into refrigerated trucks decided to dance like air traffic controllers to relieve stress and maintain their sanity, it is pretty uncouth to mock them over it.

Wish pharmacists had the guts to do this. We acquired, stored, reconstituted, delivered, and administered millions of vaccines while filing all the VAERS, yet pharmacists are never recognized by anyone.

So, after NOT wanting to be called heroes last year when people got mad at them for being anti-vax, NOW they want to be treated like heroes because their paychecks are being threatened. Interesting. They’re comfortable with the label when they feel like it suits them. Funny how that works.

If you have data or journalism to share, I'll certainly listen. Until then, fuck out of here with a link to a single Reddit comment.

Wut? RNs anti vax? Don't want to be called heroes? Being called heroes has something to do with their paycheck?

I have no idea what this is even trying to say.

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I’m a RN in an nyc ICU. Unfortunately nearly everyone I worked with during the pandemic has quit. I don’t blame them. The conditions and pay are atrocious. I have younger family members who told me they are thinking of getting their bachelors in nursing. I’ve done my best to dissuade them.

We watched as everyone stayed home and collected government paychecks while we slaved through the worst conditions without added compensation.

People banged on pots as we walked into work then treated us like lepers when in close proximity.

We watched as our friends and family took new stay at home jobs then moved to the cheaper suburbs, others negotiated pay increases to go back to the office. Our pay and work conditions remained atrocious.

We watch as the careers and savings of our friends and family with similar levels of education and certifications progress as ours dwindle.

We watched as the 2 top hospital executives each received multi million dollar bonuses and our yearly experience differential increased our pay by less than $1 an hour.

Now the executives who’s own health insurance is better, want to cut ours.

We’re sick and tired of it. It’s time to take what me made prior to the pandemic and at least increase it in proportion to inflation.

You had to leave your home office to take a flight, while we were doing compressions wrapped garbage bags for ppe. You want sympathy, really dude?

The only hospital employees that come close to fitting your description of having more education and less pay are pharmacists. They make more, not much more, but more, and it’s also not enough. The pay difference is due to them sitting in air conditioned rooms and sticking labels on zip lock bags while we are flipping dying obese patients to wipe their asses.

What other health care job requires both education, constant certification and physical labor? Honestly can’t think of any job in or out of healthcare that requires both in such quantities.

12.5% raise at least. No backing down.

Detrimental to patient care? They ARE patient care. Haven’t you ever been in a hospital? How fucking dare you.

i recognize you

-your friendly neighborhood anesthesiologist

I know a few nurses. Never had a problem previously then found people contacting people any lying while writing bizzare things into medical documents and retaliating once real medical were sent. Usually nursing requires long work hours, long periods standing, rushing between patients, admin reducing PPE access having not ordered enough as a cost cutting measure etc. This was a major issue at the beginning of the pandemic.

They've been doing major major cuts for years. The beginning of the pandemic was scary to watch when people couldn't even get masks.

for one example, PT and OT makes a lot less than RNs. they also tend to have doctorates. RNs still have ten years (or is it five?) before they are required to have a bachelors degree, as of now they can still work with a 2 year degree.

also typically it's the aides that "wipe asses", not RNs.

i may agree with you, but i don't think disinformation helps.

RNs in the city make twice as much as RNs upstate (and those RNs have pt loads half what NYC nurses have).

I think nurses should get a raise. Right along with everybody else in the hospital.

I don't think cheap theatrics are appropriate, or charged language.

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I have spent my career in Boston and Manhattan hospitals and frankly, healthcare is done better in Boston. Much, much better. And yes the nurses do a much better job there, too. I do think the nurses unions can be a detriment to pt care sometimes. That said, I hope nurses get a ~10% raise. Then maybe residents can get one next, they really need it. I'm an attending, I've seen effective pay decreases.

shrug. you can go upstate and get your 2:1 pt ratio but your pay will be half what you get in nyc.

As a fellow healthcare worker - don't even try this bull shit. You did nothing compared to what these nurses went through. They saw death for 2 years strait

I remember there was a plan on Reddit to do a national call out sick day either end of 2020 or 2021. I asked the local CVS guys about it and they were completely oblivious about it.

No walkout ever happened.

We need a national labor union for pharmacists. Not useless organizations like the APhA which are heavily influenced by the chains themselves.

Even the fucking state boards of pharmacy have members who are employed by the chains.

I don't have a "home office", I'm an emergency medical professional that is in the field everyday addressing laboratory and hospital needs. You do forget that newspaper headlines and hysteria of 2020 in regards to travel and even in this subreddit. Look up the news in Houston TX for June 2020 and check out their COVID cases, I was there to address those needs except the public thought it was a hoax and carried themselves without any sort of protection. My partner who works for the NY hospitals and covid patients directly is immunocompromised who had quite a high mortality rate prior to vaccines if she contracted COVID based on the published papers from a medical director I worked with at the NY hospitals for patients with her medical condition. I came home and slept on the floor in a different room for a year and half to quarantine myself. Also my travel and work during the COVID peak was usually 14 to 18 hours a day where I wake up at 4 AM and can relax at 8 PM or come home at midnight. my point is to not Garner sympathy. We all have a story about why we need more money for what we do. Part of being a medical professional is to be patient oriented not financially focused. Guess what, that is why we became medical professionals. If you want money, go to finance or work for med devices as a consultant/specialist.

Clinical lab technologists have a graduating class you can count on 2 hands out of only a 4 schools in the NYC area and Suffolk County. Require a NY state license that some applicants from other states do not qualify for, intensive course load, BS degree, and rotations. Clinical social workers require a licensure, Masters degree, internship, and professional clinical hours. Physical therapist requires a doctorate, license, and clinical hours. Speech pathologist requires masters, license, clinical hours, and fellowship. You can include your example of pharmacists They all get paid less in the NY hospitals than nurses. Sure some can get paid more if they elect to work away from the hospitals. And for less educated, paramedics and EMT have an equally as tough, fast paced, and physically laborious job in the front line that do not even get anywhere close to nurses.

The last three statements are why myself and other medical professionals sometimes roll our eyes on these requests. We all do our part in patient care. This is what you signed up for. What happens if those pharmacists working in the AC rooms decide to not all show up Monday? How about all those clinical social workers who elect not to show up to the ER on Monday?

Nurses have the numbers, union, and public awareness. You can shout all you want and receive praise for it.

"It's widely known. Here's one random guy who said so!"

You definitely get your vaccine info from YouTube.

Talking about one thing does not mean you need to ignore other things. It just means that right now, you're talking about one thing.

"How dare they have fun!"

Grumpy old coot.

These Boomer tantrums about people wanting decent hours and pay never cease to be hilarious.

After what I saw pharmacists go through at CVS, I can't understand how they don't all quit at once.

Massive student loan burden.

Not everyone can get a job at a hospital and there are not enough jobs in the hospital. and they don’t give out business loans for opening a independent pharmacy to new grads with student loan debt and no established customer base.

Some are able to just hunker down, keep their head down and keep up with insane pressure and get through the day and then drink themselves to sleep. Soon after burning out a couple of years later.

Some know how to properly suck off corporate and then aim to climb into the district manager, regional manager role.

Walmart and Costco I’ve heard are decent.

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Pharmacy’s have been closing outside of NYC because they’re all so understaffed. I think a bit of a revolution id happening but maybe not in NYC.

Good. If the private systems don't want to bargain in good faith after everything their nurses put up with for the last three years then they deserve a strike. Solidarity!

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After being hospitalized for over a week this year I realized that nurses ARE heroes. They work harder than anyone I’ve ever seen and go above and beyond their responsibilities every day. It’s appalling that we wouldn’t fairly compensate them for all they do.

>We watch as the careers and savings of our friends and family with similar levels of education and certifications progress as ours dwindle.

Does yours ever really increase though? I probably don't understand nursing but I thought it was a job where you can't really get promoted unlike a normal corporate job.

Another reason why student loans should be forgiven for nurses, teachers, social workers, etc.

Now watch the disappearance of the state legislators that pretended to be your friends.

Transit workers know your pain. Called us heroes too then once things started easing up we became the reason for everything wrong in the city

Last year, when the vaccines were rolling out, RNs across NYC (and the country in general) were being put on blast by the pubic for quitting/being fired over refusing to get vaccinated. The general argument from the public was “you RNs were on the front lines when Covid hit, we treated you like heroes”, and the general reply from the RN community was “we didn’t ASK to be treated like that, how dare you hold us to some higher standard!” I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in their arguments between then and now.

There are jobs for nurses across the entire united states.

Vote with your feet folks.

Have you read the book Bullshit Jobs? It is about how the care economy (jobs that take care of people's needs like transit and nursing) is largely undervalued while meaningless bullshit jobs are paid well and people doing them know it is meaningless bullshit.

I'd support a transit strike as I support a nursing strike. I'm a musician, and my work in the arts is deemed both unessential and lacking in value, even though literally every human being turns to music in moments of joy, sadness, and more.

But 'whataboutism' sets off that sweet sweet dopamine way faster than nuance. ... I'll stick to straw men, thanks.

You can have a union any time you want it, man. They don't form out of thin air.

Like 99% of RNs were thrilled to be vaccinated. The RN vaccination rate js over 99%. They got access to vaccines first before the rest of us and people were mad about that. What are you even talking about with that dumbass username.

I'll totally take some shifts on the picket lines with you guys. NYC has your back.

ICU nurses upstate are regularly tripled or more as well. Hudson Valley all the way up Albany Med are particularly bad. And they are mostly in the same Union. They don't make NYC wages but they make high wages. They are highly educated professionals who do the work that keeps inpatient care running. They should have good pay and decent working conditions.

You aren't doing bedside care. You are just another "consultant" making health care more expensive for the rest of us.

Pandemics favor labor. Resistance is foolish.

10% is inflation.

Nurses need lessened workloads and huge raises to attract more nurses. Otherwise things will just get worse.

The residents are unionized at many hospitals in NYC. They don't fight as hard and they aren't as organized tbh. They are SEIU members and SEIU is more about making nice with the boss. For example they settled their contract at Westchester Medical Center for like 3% and 4% a year while the nurses got 8% and 6%. And that is in a facility where it's illegal for anyone to strike because it's public sector.

All the unions that play nice expecting payback from the boss are having a hard time right now. All the hard core unions like the nurses are having a better year bargaining.

The unvaccinated Nurse staff are hero’s too right?

Some got fired for refusing the jab.

Bullshit jobs is not based on any study or evidence at all. Its highly criticized and has a lot of flaws in its reasoning. It seems to be more like jobs that the author doesn't like.

Totally agree. the hospitals agreed to staffing levels with all their employees...not just the nurses and not just the Union ones. They sent those stating plans to the state Dept of Health and now are totally ignoring them.

The state should make it so the hospitals have to pay that payroll no matter what. Either they hire more nurses or they pay it to the current ones. If they are gonna make nurses do the work of 1.5 or 2 of them...they should also get twice the pay.

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curious though what is the average pay for nurses? are they really getting paid unlivable wages? or just want more money because of the hours they put in? Although I do feel nurses are often overworked i cant help but feel like everyones expectations to make 6 figures as medics along with the high costs of medical school contributes to medical care being expensive

my wife worked as an RN in NYC a decade ago -- she most definitely would not recommend. She's now a family practice NP in central NJ and fucking loves it, and makes way more money.

Our Hospitalist group hasn’t received a raise in 5 years. NYP Allen. Our leadership is among those that have received hundreds of thousands in bonus’. We have been working at nearly 20% over capacity for the past 2 years.

Pay increases with years of service ~$1/hr per year and with base pay increases. If it wasn’t for that, you could image a nurse who started in 1980 still making $25k/year today. If we didn’t fight, the hospitals wouldn’t give us a dime more.

The worst part is NYP is essentially a Hedge Fund with a patient care arm. They have like $6 billion in assets in an endowment. Half of it is in the Bahamas or someplace. They have more money than God and they sending their patients to collection and cheating their employees.

Look up the cost of a house/condo in the city or more accurately in the suburbs since Manhattan is completely unrealistic. In order to commute to the hospital we need to live in a commutable range, then tell me what a fair wage is in this area.

Many of my icu colleagues have their NP. Unfortunately there are way more NPs then NP jobs. Even if that wasn’t the case do we not deserve a livable wage?

Been saying this for years. Also, California fines hospitals 15k if a unit is short staffed. It’s time to enact either or both of these policies.

of course you do. my point is she was treated terribly as an RN and it sucked and something should change.

depends anyone with upwards of 70k a year is considered middle class for nyc and can comfortably live on their own if they rent within nyc with no significant debt or buy a house in a lcol state. the housing market is a freak of nature at this point and tying income to that just isnt feasible. So what they wanna be millionaires to buy houses in nyc?

Nah, hospitals are starting to offer more than retail, I’m making $160k as a hospital pharmacist. (Overnight though.)

Well that’s because you have pay differential probably. 10 hour shifts 4 days a week. Not too bad. 140k was during the pandemic. After this year, probably closer to 150k

Love the "your payroll must be paid to the remaining staff if you are understaffed" concept.

Never even crossed my mind as an option but fixes pretty much everything.

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Read "Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving" instead.

Saying ‘we were the heroes’ really don’t earn you sympathy or help your cause.

Good luck to the nurses in this, I hope they get everything they deserve. I wish we teachers could do the same.

What does 70k for a family of 4 look like?

I want to see your definition of "can live comfortably on their own" because you believe 70K is sufficient.

What next, asking them to take second jobs?

lol I don't think they ever called us heros but yeah

in a preferably two income family that looking like 100k+ a year which is more than enough to survive in nyc. Hell i know people who do it on less than 40k a year. you do not need to make 6 figure to make it in the city. buying a house is another story.

Why can't teachers strike

Unfortunately this should surprise noone. Hailing people as 'heroes' is the oldest trick in the book to make someone do something truly awful for their own self interest.

Look at these heroes going off to die at war! Or in this case, the heroes that have to go treat a deadly pandemic with a bandana for a mask.

Dam straight you were/are!!!

They should just get side gigs as no show MTA contractors

...but we clapped...

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People like you are the reason America is so fucked right now for the average person. Being a sycophant only helps billionaires so you should stop pretending like you are better than anyone else.

The healthcare system is fucked nationwide and this is another symptom of this disease.

Teachers too

Nurses do all the dirty work for the doctors to get all the credit. Not saying they should be paid more than doctors because their knowledge is super important and they also get the brunt of the blame when things go wrong. But nurses definitely need to be paid much more for all their hard work.

Your post tells me your unaware of cost of living in NYC. To put things in perspective a buttered bagel and small coffee is $7 in Brooklyn. My heating gas bill was $165 and it’s not really cold here yet. A 1 bedroom apartment in Brooklyn is $1900/month in a “bad” neighborhood, $2500 in a “safe” neighborhood and $5k in a “nice” neighborhood. Tiny 1 bedroom Condo is about $600k with $700 month maintenance fee. Forgetting fed tax, just ny state and city take 15% of what we make. Quick google search says average pay in nyc is 107k, so 6 figures is average and nurses make below average pay. Although we’re more educated than average, have harder than average jobs and more dangerous than average jobs (believe it or not nurses are hurt on the job more often than police officers) we would be happy with average pay.

Are you going to cover their moving expenses and will you pay for them to travel back to see their family?

All their wages should be raised. We can take it out of the admins bloted salaries or from the biggest scum of the earth the insurance companies.

> hasn’t received a raise in 5 years

Which is AKA they've taken a massive pay cut, because inflation is outrageous.

They can’t seem to grasp how different cost of living is compared to when they were in their 20s.

As they should have working in health care with at risk patients

In New York, it’s illegal. Public-sector employees aren’t allowed to strike in New York since 1947. If we vote to strike, the union contract is instantly void and everyone is basically fired on the spot.

It’s like a Mutually Assured Destruction thing cause it’s not like the city could actually replace 100,000 teachers but we can’t use striking as leverage in negotiations because they know the union would never vote on it.

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> there was a plan on Reddit

I may have found the flaw...

That's some fucking horseshit.

They should do it out of spite. It's not like they can replace any.

No, no not heroes but yes everyone deserves raises due to inflation.

Of course, if everyone gets raises we'll never stop inflation. So, it does become a bit of a vicious cycle.

Instead of raises I wish inflation would motivate people to leave high cost areas.

These nurses work in private hospitals so not public sector.

Yeah I get differential (10%). Health insurance, child care stipend, pension for just $125 a month union dues.

12 hour shifts x 7 days straight though. But then I’m also off for 7 days straight.

No pension for retail but decent match from employer. Health insurance plan is decent. You are also based in nyc? How’s the child care stipend?

I agree. My parents ran a family of 4 with $30k at one point, we were perfectly comfortable as we rented an affordable place and lived below our means as everyone should. I also know people who also grew up with similar incomes and were doing okay. If you don’t have a balanced budget that’s on you, stop blaming others.

The wages are roughly comparable, but we need to have a Master’s degree to be teachers, which isn’t a requirement for nurses.

You guys were just as important as people in hospitals...respect. The lines I saw for people getting self administered nasal tests were insane, probably didn't have time to do actual work during Covid.

In NY it's because of the Taylor Law. Striking is illegal in the public sector. The union gets fined 2 days of dues for every day on strike so it is essentially bankrupted. Striking leaders and members are jailed. Like TWU Local 100 took a long time to recover from their strike in the mid aughts.

That being said nurses at Westchester Medical Center which is public and under the Taylor law won an 8% wage increase back in like September. So its possible.

Ughhh let's hope the hospitals don't cave

You can't work in a hospital without being vaccinated for TB, Influenza, Covid and some other things. These are private sector hospitals, the employer makes the rules while bargaining with the Union

I've been in a hospital environment for 4 months, there are good nurses and really bad nurses. Most fall somewhere in between. Needless to say I have a new found respect for healthcare workers of all kinds.

Nurses start at about $100k in these hospitals. They can go get a job reviewing bills for an insurance company and make 30%-50% more while working from home and not blowing rotator cuffs and discs moving patients around. Which is what a lot of them are doing. Which is why nurses in hospitals have 4 ICU patients instead of 2 and patients were and are still dying due to short staffing.

So would they be happy if they hired more people cut hours and paid less because the job was now less stressful?

median household income in nyc is $67k, and $34k for an individual.

Another solution would be to get tuition prices under control. Maybe even offer subsidies for certain degrees that directly benefit society.

> Our Hospitalist group hasn’t received a raise in 5 years

Doesn't the contract have raise scale based on seniority?

Having been in a hospital for over 4 months (a Level 4 NICU) I can confidently say that there are definitely bad nurses out there. The good outweigh the bad, but you can't just assume everyone in a profession is a rockstar. By far the worst the most frustrating thing I've seen is how everyone is glued to their personal phones 24 hours a day, as a parent it's infuriating.

While blocking bike lanes with their plates covered

30k so figure you’ll bring home after taxes $1500 a month. With rent being $2000 tell me how your going to balance your budget. Tell me how you and someone else each bringing in 30k in a one bedroom are going to balance your budget. SMH

No. Everyone that has the instructor title gets paid the same regardless of how many years. Also no built in CoL increase. Also no revenue share. Also no proper staffing.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/hpd/services-and-information/area-median-income.page.

Median income is $93,400

Yes California has the model...they recently raised it to 30k. The regulators there are very hands on (unlike in New York which pretty much leaves the hospital association to regulate itself.)
Another thing NY could do is to amend the tort law to consider lack of staffing not in compliance with state staffing plans as a direct cause for malpractice. Then the state doesn't even have to enfore the law a bunch of ambulence chasing lawyers will do it for them. Most of these hospitals are self insured, let them pay for all the injuries they cause patients who fall on the way to the bathroom because a nurse had 3 tele patients AND 3 med surg patients that day.

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Think it’s 88

Slightly north of NYC. Its the 1199 union.

I wanna say its about $500 a month, which is not much nowadays but almost no one else offers it.

My first data points were just what Google serves up. Is your figure for NYC region? Median household income in 2021 was $70.6k for NYC proper.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/newyorkcitynewyork/HSG010221

Can’t work in a hospital without a bachelors at least not in NYC. There are some 30 year veterans who are grandfathered in but none hired in at least 10 years.

OT is a master’s - they and pt’s make very nearly the same only a few dollars less than RNs but job is significantly easier. 1 pt at a time sit down chart for 20min take your time walking hall to see next pt.

ICU nurses absolutely wipe ass. 20 icu pts and 1 aide is pretty standard at this point. At least it has been in my experience in 2 different nyc hospitals.

I work with a guy from Boston he says Boston is better for nurses as well.

I was saying the same during the pandemic. The best time to strike was during the pandemic, but at our core as health care workers, we care about the patients. We had them over the barrel during the pandemic, and some unions negotiated horribly while we had leverage.

> others negotiated pay increases to go back to the office.

Is this really that common? I wish that were true for my industry.

That definitely helps

First of all you would bring in $2250 after tax with a $30k income, not $1500, you probably pulled that data out of your ass. Then you have to live in a affordable neighborhood, median rent doesn’t matter because half the apartments cost less than the median, then balance out other bills.

Now $30k won’t buy you a home but that’s literally the minimum wage in NYC, a double income in a minimum wage would be almost $60k, as most families are double income this isn’t much of a deal.

Cuomo is still out there touching women inappropriately. His brother Fredo... sleeping with the fishes probably (who cares)

$40k in 1980 is $144k in 2022 dollars.

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They would be happy to get same salary and health benefits as they are now with inflation and if the hospital staffed to the plan they submitted to the state Dept of Health.

No one wants a pay cut. What a stupid question.

Heros v zeros.

I’m not talking about 1980, idk why you’re bringing that up. I lived with $25-30k just 4 years ago.

well then that is less than 150% of poverty level and "extra low income" as per Section 8 requirements. if you are on food stamps, Medicaid and section 8 - maybe that shouldn't be the standard for "perfectly comfortable."

I wish all nurses get their school debts cleared, free health insurance, at least 15 % raise, manageable working conditions, decreased patient loads, scheduled break times, 4 weeks of vacation… and whatever else they want. When I’m sick in a hospital bed I want a well-rested nurse with time to care for me.

I totally agree.

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I worked for a public hospital in winter-spring 2021 directly with COVID patients, and we weren’t given N-95s at all, and they attempted to take away our gowns because they were low on inventory.

Meanwhile, N-95s were available for purchase online at this point (expensive but not hard to get - I had to resort to paying out of pocket for my own), and surgical masks and gowns were plentiful online. Really sick, the way these hospitals treated their employees.

I worked in the ER in Brooklyn and increased pay was not my highest on my list. If they could fix staffing ratios that would be amazing. I have taken care of 20 patients by myself. It can’t be done safely. Because they couldn’t staff positions properly, i accrued about 300+ hours of vacation that I was not able to take (was paid for it after quitting). Yeah, we get all the blame for mistakes.

On a picket line at the Michael Quill Bus Depot, I met a mechanic who told me he had stood on picket lines during visits to Paris and London, and that it was extremely educational.

And then people would get angry if the lab didn’t return the results within 24 hrs.

Like holy shit, calm down with traveling.

They were likely getting some kind of government assistance at that income level, Medicaid, SNAP benefits, housing assistance, etc. Which is funny because you seem to have a big problem with socialism.

I had an N-95 because a friend who is an NP fucking stole me one from her job at a clinic. She also stole a gown for me. She shouldn’t have had to do that but I really thank her for it.

Medicaid isn’t socialism and neither is universal healthcare and I don’t oppose them. The only funny thing is you don’t know the definition of capitalism and socialism and think any government program is socialism dumbass.

That 7pm clap during the pandemic was the biggest crock of bs…people phony

I heard some chain pharmacies offering $49/hr to entry level pharmacists. That's less than what they were offering 10 years ago. The profession is in a sad state.

My wife is 1 year into her RN schooling and I been trying to convince her to go X-Ray tech route.

I feel for you guys, I was a regular at the ER (I used to do a lot of extreme sports, not good at them lol) It's a lot work and seems like a thankless job.

And don’t forget residents.

My program hasn’t given a pay increase in the last 10 years lol

A few points I wanted to make here. I hate unions. I was in the ICU for several days this year. Nurses have the skills of doctors, but the ego is replaced with compassion. Nothing was more comforting than my latin nurse getting me when I came out of a coma and saying hey baby, I'm XYZ, this is what happened. Relax and we'll take great care of you. Doctors dont do that.

No one is making anyone do 2 jobs. Nurses wouldn't just walk out on their patients, however. The insane workload was only possible because the union management was also I n FL or too dumb to capitalize on a once in a lifetime opportunity to fundamentally change change the structure of nurse compensation nationally.

This never should have even been raised by union members to get their paid representation to advocate for them. Unions are huge government supporters but the nurses union was too dumb to lobby for a heroes 500b fund for future raises?

The union should refund all dues collected during COVID because that money wasn't earned. If all NYC nursing unions gave all hospitals a list of demands + 72 hours notice to not harm patients, I could confidently resolve this from bed in under an hour. Regardless of what you believe you deserve, you won't get it unless you ask for it. I'd ask for x% raise effective 1/1/23; annual raise equal to COLA adjustment as determined by SS + x% of annual insurance reimbursement increase + complete health benefit restoration + zero cost dental for everyone because they pissed me off

How can we stop this? Penalties?